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The W3C Workshop on the Future of Social Networking Position Papers
I am in Barcelona, Spain (the country of Dali) for the W3C Workshop on the Future of Social Networking. To prepare for this I decided to read through the 75 position papers. This is the conference I have been the best prepared for ever. It really changes the way I can interact with other attendees. :-)
I wrote down a few notes on most paper I read through, to help me remember what I read. This took me close to a week, a good part of which I spent trying to track down the authors on the web, find their pictures, familiarise myself with their work, and fill out my Address Book. Anything I could do to help me find as many connections as possible to help me remember the work. I used delicious to save some subjective notes, which can be found on under the w3csn tag. I was going to publish this on Wednesday, but had not quite finished reading through all the papers. I got back to my hotel this evening to find that Libby Miller, who co-authored the foaf ontology, had beat me to it with the extend and quality of her reviews which she published in a two parts:
- Part one covers papers 1 to 42
- Part two covers paper 43 to 72 and the three late ones
Amazing work Libby!
70 papers is more than most people can afford to read. If I were to recommend just a handful of papers that stand out in my mind for now these would be: I will blog about other posts as the occasion presents itself in future blogs. This is enough for now. I have to get up early and be awake for tomorrow's talks which start at 8:30 am. In the mean time you can follow a lively discussion of the ongoing conference on twitter under the w3csn tag.
Posted at 12:52AM Jan 16, 2009 [permalink/trackback] by Henry Story in SemWeb | Comments[8]
Note on comments:
- I know the forms below are a little small. We have asked for years for this to be changed, but I don't think it's going to happen soon. In Apple's Safari you can resize the entry box with you mouse. For people using other browsers click on this javascript link, that should allow you to resize your form.
- Comments are moderated, so they will take a little time to appear. Currently moderation means I have to read them personally. Hopefully with OpenId deployment, this will become more automated.
- HTML markup no longer works here, due to some decision made somewhere. Sorry about that.
- If you are having trouble posting, it may be that you need javascript to be enabled. I don't think javascript should be needed for submitting a form, but that's the way it is here.
- Check your comments by using the preview button...


This is all very interesting, and much appreciated for those of us that could not attend.
We are planning a concept that hopes to boost individual or organisational publicity, whilst also enhancing privacy.
Your summary from 75 papers gives us great validation, as well as plenty of food for thought.
Thanks. ;-)
Posted by Pavan on January 16, 2009 at 02:48 AM CET #
Thanks for all your great questions...looking forward to more chats about semantics for accessibility.
Posted by Henny on January 16, 2009 at 02:34 PM CET #
Hello Henry,
Thank you for mentioning our paper!
Just a little favor to ask you. Could you use my URI http://dig.csail.mit.edu/People/kennyluck#I in the hyperlink "Kanghao Lu" for reasons I described in http://people.csail.mit.edu/kennyluck/#Stop_Using_Page_URIs . Just like "kennyluck" in this comment :)
By the way, I just discovered I could use my URI as my OpenID. I sort of blogged it in http://people.csail.mit.edu/kennyluck/using_WebID_as_OpenID_works . I hope this use of URI is compatible with FOAF+SSL. That is, a server should be able to choose either OpenID or FOAF+SSL authentication from my URI, which is unique.
For this comment form, I claim that my URL = my URI <> my homepage's URI.
Kenny
Posted by kennyluck on January 16, 2009 at 11:42 PM CET #
Hi Kennyluck, I changed the URI to what you asked me.
It would have helped of course if your name in your position paper had been hyperlinked to that URL :-), and even better if that paper had been written up in xhtml with RDFa markup.
As far as linking openid and your foaf, I would tend to suggest using the URL for your foaf:PersonalProfileDocument, and having a statement in that document to the effect that
:me foaf:openid <> .
And yes, foaf+ssl works fine with OpenId. It could even be used as a backup solution for logging to services if one could for some reason not use foaf+ssl.
http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/foaf_openid
Posted by Henry Story on January 17, 2009 at 01:36 PM CET #
Hi Henry,
In fact, we do have a XHTML version (no RDFa though) http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2008/Papers/MSNWS/ , but for some reason we submitted the pdf one.
Tim and I do think you should be able to log into a service using your URI. He even invented the term WebID ( http://esw.w3.org/topic/WebID ). Of course the server side could then use FOAF+SSL authentication. Any implementation like that so far? (I mean logging into a Web site)
I personally think if we are going this direction then if your OpenID is different form your WebID, it would be confusing which one to use when logging into Web sites.
Posted by kennyluck on January 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM CET #
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Tim and I do think you should be able to log into a service using your URI. He even invented the term WebID ( http://esw.w3.org/topic/WebID ). Of course the server side could then use FOAF+SSL authentication.
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WebId is a very good term. I have not spent a dime on marketing foaf+ssl, and there may be better names. foaf+ssl does not depend on foaf. It just depends on WebId. But foaf will be the most used implementation intially and it trigger the right social networking intuitions.
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Any implementation like that so far? (I mean logging into a Web site)
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No logging into a web site implementation right now. But it should be easy to do. Check
http://esw.w3.org/topic/foaf+ssl
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I personally think if we are going this direction then if your OpenID is different form your WebID, it would be confusing which one to use when logging into Web sites.
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You could have your web id be the same as your OpenId for sure. But there is no need to. With foaf+ssl the browser asks for your certificate, which you get to choose by name. You don't even need to remember your URI. Apparently people just don't remember their OpenId URIs. They just don't get that. Foaf+ssl bypasses that problem too.
Posted by Henry Story on January 18, 2009 at 04:17 AM CET #
This stuff is gold, i can't explain how thrilled i am to find this blog. I actually understand foaf now, and i'll be coming back to learn more. Wish I could've made the trip to europe to network and hear everyones fresh and fancy ideas.
Posted by kenny on January 28, 2009 at 10:53 AM CET #
Hi Henry,
This might be out of topic question, but can I ask what is "Position paper", what makes it different from other papers submitted to conferences?
Thanks
Posted by Iris on March 28, 2009 at 06:38 PM CET #