BM Seer Unofficial thoughts from an anonymous Sun employee

IBM blogger slices cores in weird ways

Tuesday Oct 09, 2007

Sun compared a Sun SPARC Enterprise T5120 (1RU, 1 CPU) benchmark to a IBM p570 4.7GHz POWER6 (4RU 2-CPU 4-core). Yes, Sun is 4 times smaller and IBM uses 2.3 TIMES more watts". what is IBM response...

    "I've been told to tell you: cores are the only thing that matters, IBM drone"
IBM tells us to compare on core count???? OK, 8-core IBM p570 power6 is:
  • 8 rack units (8 times bigger than Sun's 1 RU T5120!)
  • lots of watts (more than 4 times Sun T5120)
  • ...oh yeah, IBM 8-core is not even twice the performance
  • IBM's price of the IBM system 8-core with 64GB @4.7GHz???
Sun's uses the watts that IBM puts in their datasheets (and even give them the benefit of the doubt by reducing it, please notice that when IBM launched the product they used to brag about these same watts). Because IBM does NOT publish measured watts on actual benchmarks. IBM prefers to say insane things....
    "I've been told to tell you: cores are the only thing that matters, IBM drone"

it is often said... " that the definition of insanity is repetition of an action, each time hoping for a different outcome."

    "I've been told to tell you: cores are the only thing that matters, IBM drone"
    "I've been told to tell you: cores are the only thing that matters, IBM drone"
    "I've been told to tell you: cores are the only thing that matters, IBM drone"

Disclosure Statement

Two-tier SAP Standard Sales and Distribution (SD) standard SAP ERP 2005 application benchmark: SPARC Enterprise Model T5120 (1-way, 1 proc, 8 cores, 64 threads) 1 x 1.4 GHz UltraSPARC T2, 64GB memory, 2175 SD Benchmark users, 1.91 sec avg response time, Cert#2007059, Oracle 10g, Solaris 10; SPARC Enterprise Model T2000 | Sun Fire T2000 (1-way, 1 proc, 8 cores, 32 threads) 1 x 1.4 GHz UltraSPARC T1, 64GB memory, 1100 SD Benchmark users, 1.91 sec avg response time, Cert#2007051, Oracle 10g, Solaris 10; HP ProLiant BL460c (2-way, 2 processors, 8 cores, 8 threads) 2 x 3.0 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB memory, 2080 SAP SD Benchmark users, 1.99 sec avg response time, Cert#2007054, SQL Server 2005, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition; HP ProLiant DL380 G5 (2-way, 2 processors, 4 cores, 4 threads) 2 x 3.0 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB memory, 2080 SAP SD Benchmark users, 1.95 sec avg response time, Cert#2007057, SQL Server 2005, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition; HP Integrity rx6600 (4-way, 4 processors, 8 cores, 16 threads) 4 x 1.6 GHz Dual-Core Intel Itanium, 48GB memory, 2150 SAP SD Benchmark users, 1.97 sec avg response time, Cert#2006083, Oracle 10g, HP-UX 11iV3; IBM System p 570 (2-way, 2 processors, 4 cores, 8 threads) 2 x 4.7 GHz POWER6+, 32GB memory, 2035 SD Benchmark users, 1.99s avg resp time, Cert#2007037, Oracle 10g, AIX 5L Version 5.3; SAP, R/3, mySAP reg TM of SAP AG in Germany and other countries. More info www.sap.com/solutions/benchmark. IBM System p 570 (4.7 GHz) best 8-core two-tier SAP SD Standard Application Benchmark result (4010 benchmark users, 1.96 second average response time, cert # 2007038) running Oracle 10g, AIX 5L V5.3, SAP ECC Release 6.0. (8 processor cores/4 chips/16 threads) with 64 GB memory.

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If you didn't understand, all cores are not the same, IBM is very silly to use it as the basis for comparison. Why not compare system to system instead of pointing to a chip attribute to confuse everyone.,

Posted by BM Seer on October 09, 2007 at 05:55 PM PDT #

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