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SAP-SD 2-Tier and Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000/32 SPARC64 VII

Wednesday Jan 07, 2009

The 32-way Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000 with 2.52 GHz SPARC64 VII processors, 32 processors / 128 cores / 256 threads, achieved 24,650 users on the two-tier SAP Sales and Distribution (SD) standard SAP ERP 6.0 (2005) application benchmark.

The 32-way Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000 gets to 69% of the per-cpu result of largest configuration 32-way IBM p595 (POWER6 5.0 GHz, 64 cores total). Note the Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000 can be configured as a 64-way system.

SAP-SD 2-Tier Performance Table (in decreasing performance order)

System OS
Database		 Users SAP
ERP/ECC
Release		 SAPS SAPS/
Proc		 Date
Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000
64xSPARC64 VII @2.52GHz
1024 GB		 Solaris 10
Oracle 10g		 39,100 2005
6.0		 196,564 3,071 14-Jul-08
IBM Power 595
32xPOWER6 @5.0GHz
64 cores, 512 GB		 AIX 6.1
DB2 9.5		 35,400 2005
6.0		 177,950 5,561 08-Apr-08
HP Integrity SD64B
64xItanium2 @1.6GHz
128 cores, 512 GB		 HP-UX 11iV3
Oracle 10g		 30,000 2005
6.0		 152,530 2,383 18-Dec-06
Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000
64xSPARC64 VI @2.4GHz
1024 GB		 Solaris 10
Oracle 10g		 25,130 2005
6.0		 129,420 2,022 11-Jul-08
Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000
32xSPARC64 VII @2.52GHz
512 GB		 Solaris 10
Oracle 10g		 24,650 2005
6.0		 123,470 3,858 17-Dec-08
IBM p5 595
64xPOWER5+ @2.3GHz
64 cores, 512 GB		 AIX 5.3
DB2 9		 23,456 2004
5.0		 117,520 1,836 25-Jul-06
Sun SPARC Enterprise M8000
16xSPARC64 VI @2.4GHz
256 GB		 Solaris 10
Oracle 10g		 7,300 2005
6.0		 36,570 2,285 17-Apr-07

SAP ERP 6.0 (2005) application benchmark is a bit more heavy-weight than mySAP ERP 2004 (SAP ECC 5.0), which has a performance impact of ~2-3%.

Complete benchmark results may be found at the SAP benchmark website http://www.sap.com/benchmark.

Benchmark Description

The SAP Standard Application SD (Sales and Distribution) Benchmark is a two-tier ERP business test that is indicative of full business workloads of complete order processing and invoice processing, and demonstrates the ability to run both the application and database software on a single system. The SAP Standard Application SD Benchmark represents the critical tasks performed in real-world ERP business environments.

SAP is one of the premier world-wide ERP application providers, and maintains systems on the various SAP products.

Disclosure Statement:

Two-tier SAP Sales and Distribution (SD) standard SAP ERP 6.0 (2005) application benchmark as of 12/17/08: Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000 (32 processors, 128 cores, 256 threads) 32 x 2.52 GHz SPARC64 VII, 512GB memory, 24,650 SD benchmark users, Cert#2008075, Oracle 10g, Solaris 10, SAP ECC Release 6.0; Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000 (64 processors, 256 cores, 512 threads) 64 x 2.52 GHz SPARC64 VII, 1024GB memory, 39,100 SD benchmark users, Cert#2008042, Oracle 10g, Solaris 10, SAP ECC Release 6.0; Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000 (64 processors, 128 cores, 256 threads) 64 x 2.4 GHz SPARC64 VI, 1024GB memory, 25,130 SD benchmark users, Cert#2008040, Oracle 10g, Solaris 10, SAP ECC Release 6.0; Sun SPARC Enterprise M8000 (16 processors, 32 cores, 64 threads) 16 x 2.4 GHz SPARC64 VI, 256GB memory, 7,300 SD benchmark users, Cert#2007026, Oracle 10g, Solaris 10, SAP ECC Release 6.0; IBM Power 595 (32 processors, 64 cores, 128 threads), 35,400 SD benchmark users, 32 x 5.0 GHz POWER6, 512 GB, DB2 9.5, AIX 6.1, Cert. 2008019, SAP ECC Release 6.0; IBM System p5 595 (64 processors, 64 cores, 128 threads), 23,456 SD benchmark users, 64 x 2.3 GHz POWER5+, 512 GB, DB2 9, AIX 5.3, Cert. 2006045, SAP ECC Release 5.0; HP Integrity SD64B (64 processors, 128 cores, 256 threads), 30,000 SD benchmark users, 64 x 1.6 GHz Dual-Core Intel Itanium 2, 512 GB, Oracle 10g, HP-UX 11iV3, Cert#2006089, SAP ECC Release 6.0; SAP, R/3, mySAP reg TM of SAP AG in Germany and other countries. More info http://www.sap.com/benchmark.

SAP-SD 2-Tier benchmark Summary

Certified Results
Performance: 24,650 benchmark users
Server: Sun SPARC Enterprise M9000
Processors: 32 x 2.52 GHz SPARC64 VII
Memory: 512 GB
Operating system: Solaris 10
Database S/W: Oracle 10g
SAP S/W: SAP ECC 6.0
SAP Certification: #2008075
Storage: 1 x Internal System Disk
8 x Sun StorageTek(tm) 6140 Arrays

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Posted at 11:08AM Jan 07, 2009 in Benchmark Issues
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A few questions/comments.

In the System column of your table you give the processor count for all systems, but the core count for only the IBM and HP systems.

Were all the Oracle versions actually the initial 10g, or were some R2 or somesuch?

Similarly, were all the Solaris 10 versions the initial 10, or were some an update?

When I divide 3858 by 5561 and then multiply by 100 I get 69.38 - unless rounding rules have changed that would be 69% not 70% :)

In the Disclosure statement you have included the response time for the Sun results, but not for the IBM and HP results.

Posted by rick jones on January 08, 2009 at 08:37 AM PST #

You know HP and IBM play all kinds of games with cores :). I'm trying to be very clear on those systems that it is in fact the full-CPU-config IBM power6 system.

If you look on the sap.com/benchmarks page, they specified the OS/DB as such.

To me the disclosure statement looks like it included extra info in case the data was made public before the certification number was given, I deleted it as these are not comparables but a "to satisfy limit."

Posted by BM Seer on January 08, 2009 at 02:27 PM PST #

64 x SPARC64 VII consist of 256 cores CPU meaning that you must pay 192 Oracle DB license ... wow, that's a lot bro ! :-)

Posted by heatphlux on January 12, 2009 at 02:32 PM PST #

Wow IBM's POWER6 cores are super expensive that's a lot more double-bro! :)

Posted by BM Seer on January 12, 2009 at 02:50 PM PST #

More seriously. For this workload if you bought your Oracle license from SAP to run your SAP-SD 2 tier workload then Oracle is NOT priced per core.

Also most cores in this benchmark are running SAP not Oracle Database. So you were poorly informed by IBM marketingplux.

Happy New Year!

Posted by BM Seer on January 12, 2009 at 02:55 PM PST #

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