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Sun X4600 M2 Server SAP-SD 2-Tier ERP 6.0

Tuesday Nov 04, 2008

Sun's new 8-processor Unicode result for UNIX on the two-tier SAP Sales and Distribution (SD) Standard Application Benchmark ERP 6.0 (2005)

The Sun Fire X4600 M2 server with eight AMD Opteron processor 8360 SE (32 cores, 32 threads) that was running the SAP ERP application Release 6.0 with Unicode software and MaxDB 7.6 database on top of the Solaris 10 OS, was able to support 5,800 SAP SD Benchmark users. This benchmark result highlights the optimal performance of SAP ERP on Sun Fire servers running the Solaris OS and the seamless multilingual support available for systems running SAP applications.

With the current SAP SD benchmark Sun delivers more performance using the Unicode version than HP using the old non-Unicode version. According to SAP a Unicode system needs 10-30% more resources to support the same number of users.

Also see:
http://blogs.sun.com/isve/entry/sun_x4600_blazing_sap_performance

SAP-SD 2-Tier Performance Table (in decreasing performance order, Benchmark Users, bigger is better)

Sys Users Chips,
Type
GHz		 Mem OS DB LI/Hr SAPS BM rev Date
IBM Sys x3950 9200 8 6C Xeon 7460 2.66 128 GB Windows Server 2003 DC Ed DB2 9.5 923,330 46,170 6.0 2005 08-Sep-08
IBM p 570 8000 8 DC POW6 4.7 128 GB AIX 5L Ver 5.3 DB2 9 801,330 40,070 6.0 21-May-07
Sun SPARC Ent T5440 7520 4 US T2 Plus 1.4 128 GB Solaris 10 Oracle 10g 753,000 37,647 6.0 10-Oct-08
IBM Sys x3950 M2 6615 8 QC Xeon 7350 2.93 128 GB Windows Server 2003 DC Ed DB2 9.5 662,000 33,100 6.0 2005 25-Jun-08
Sun Fire X4600 M2 5800 8 QC Opt- eron 8360 2.5 128 GB Solaris 10 MaxDB 7.6 593,330 29,670 6.0 2005 uni- code 22-Oct-08
HP PL DL785 5230 8 QC Opt- eron 8360 2.5 128 GB Windows Server 2003 EE SQL- Server 2008 523,670 26,180 6.0 2005 05-May-08

Complete benchmark results may be found at the SAP benchmark website http://www.sap.com/benchmark.

Benchmark Description

The SAP Standard Application SD (Sales and Distribution) Benchmark is a two-tier ERP business test that is indicative of full business workloads of complete order processing and invoice processing, and demonstrates the ability to run both the application and database software on a single system. The SAP Standard Application SD Benchmark represents the critical tasks performed in real-world ERP business environments.

SAP is one of the premier world-wide ERP application providers, and maintains a suite of benchmark tests to demonstrate the performance of competitive systems on the various SAP products.

Disclosure Statement:

Two-tier SAP Standard Sales and Distribution (SD) standard SAP ERP 6.0 (2005) application benchmark: Two-tier SAP Standard Sales and Distribution (SD) standard SAP ERP 2005 application benchmark: IBM System x3950 M2 (8-way, 8 proc, 48 cores, 48 threads) 8 x 2.66 GHz Intel Xeon Processor MP X7460, 128GB memory, 9200 SD Benchmark users, 1.95 sec avg response time, Cert#2008046, DB2 9.5, Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition; IBM System p570 (8-way, 8 proc, 16 cores, 32 threads) 8 x 4.7 GHz POWER6, 128GB memory, 8000 SD Benchmark users, 1.98 sec avg response time, Cert#2007039, DB2 9, AIX 5L Version 5.3; IBM System x3950 (8-way, 8 proc, 32 cores, 32 threads) 8 x 2.93 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor X7350, 128GB memory, 6615 SD Benchmark users, 1.99 sec avg response time, Cert#2008035, DB2 9.5, Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition; Sun Fire X4600 (8-way, 8 proc, 32 cores, 32 threads) 8 x 2.5 GHz Quad-Core AMD Opteron Processor 8360 SE, 128GB memory, 5800 SD Benchmark users, 1.73 sec avg resp time, Cert#2008061, MaxDB 7.6, Solaris 10; HP ProLiant DL785 (8-way, 8 proc, 32 cores, 32 threads) 8 x 2.5 GHz Quad-Core AMD Opteron Processor 8360 SE, 128GB memory, 5230 SD Benchmark users, 1.99 sec avg resp time, Cert#2008026, SQL Server 2008, Windows Server 2003 EE; SPARC Enterprise Model T5440 (4-way, 4 processors, 32 cores, 256 threads) 4 x 1.4 GHz UltraSPARC T2 Plus, 128GB memory, 7520 SD Benchmark users, 1.98 sec avg response time, Cert#2008058, Oracle 10g, Solaris 10; SAP, R/3, mySAP reg TM of SAP AG in Germany and other countries. More info www.sap.com/solutions/benchmark.

Results Summary

Certified Results
Performance: 5800 benchmark users
Server: Sun Fire X4600 M2
Processors: 2.5 GHz AMD Opteron Processor 8360 SE, 8 processors / 32 cores / 32 threads
Memory: 128 GB
Operating system: Solaris 10
Database S/W: MaxDB 7.6
SAP ECC 6.0: SAP ERP 6.0 Unicode
SAP Certification: 2008061
Storage: 3 x STK2540, 3 x STK2501 each with 12 x 146GB/15kRPM disks

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Posted at 10:25AM Nov 04, 2008 in Benchmark Issues
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So, am i missing something here, or are you promoting the fact that Opteron based X4600 is outperformed by Xeon, T2 and Power based alternatives ?

Posted by Alex on November 04, 2008 at 10:36 AM PST #

...and how does the T5440 perform with a cheaper database than Oracle 10g - say MaxDB or plain MySQL?

Thanks.

Posted by Kevin Hutchinson on November 04, 2008 at 11:15 AM PST #

Alex: Promoting? I just show various pieces of information that I find interesting.

Kevin: I just saw a very interesting internal comparison of MySQL running on CMT vs. X64. Very interesting upgrade potential and consolidation play. I'll post it as soon as I see the bit flip that it can go external....

Posted by BM Seer on November 04, 2008 at 01:18 PM PST #

No spin doctoring of the data?

Posted by Quartzian on November 04, 2008 at 07:36 PM PST #

>According to SAP a Unicode system needs 10-30% more resources to support the same number of users.

X4600 + 25% spaps ~= T5440 saps

X4600 8xOpteron, 64Gb RAM ~ $35K
T5440 4xT2 plus, 64Gb RAM ~ $80K

You saying that T5440 can do the same workload as Power6 systems for much less money and what about Opterons vs T5440 ?

Posted by Triffids on November 05, 2008 at 02:14 AM PST #

If your bringing $$ into the equation, then dont forget that 8 core 128GB mem would mean you would/should be looking at a Power 6 p550 rather than p570

Posted by Alex on November 05, 2008 at 04:54 AM PST #

Lots of you seem to have competitive agendas...

SAP does NOT allow any price performance comparisons made in conjunction with their benchmarks.

By the by, all commenters who work for computer vendors know this and should post retractions.

Posted by BM Seer on November 05, 2008 at 07:42 AM PST #

The irony in your last past is astonishing ! :)

Posted by Alex on November 05, 2008 at 11:07 AM PST #

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