BM Seer Unofficial thoughts from an anonymous Sun employee

They tried to make IBM show perf, IBM said no, no, no...

Thursday Nov 15, 2007

no STREAM Bandwidth p570 power6 results
no TPC-H single-system Power6 results
no SPECweb2005 Power6 results
<16-Nov: line deleted due to correction, see note below> no SPECjAppServer2004 Power6 as database server
No SPECmail Power6 results
no SPECompL2001 Power6 results
no Lotus Domino R6iNotes Power6 results
no cryptography performance on Power6 results
no power-performance on any published benchmarks
no consolidation overheads on Power6, (Solaris Zones=~0%)
etc.

What does the industry get - the most expensive core now built and a bogus press release chip bandwidth number: http://blogs.sun.com/bmseer/entry/finally_proof_power6_has_meaningless

I don't even think the Power6 has a single-chip world record on anything that everyone publishes?

...without even going into HPC ISV results (err, lack thereof)
no Fluent Power6 results
no StarCD Power6 results
no LSDyna Power6 results
no MSC.Nastran Power6 results
etc.

If it was as fast and IBM claims in marketing wouldn't IBM just do the ones they haven't done? Also why can't they beat the UltraSPARC T2 world records on the ones they publish?

"You won't know, know, know..." -Amy Winehouse

SPEC, SPECint, SPECweb, SPECfp, SPECjAppServer, SPECmail, SPEComp, reg tm of Standard Performance Evaluation Corporation. TPC-H, QphH, $/QphH tm of Transaction Processing Performance Council (TPC). More info http://www.tpc.org. Lotus Domino more info: www.notesbench.org

Postscript Note:
The original posting had an error. IBM did publish a SPECjAppserver2004 benchmark on Power6. The comparison is: One Sun T5220 server (single UltraSPARC T2 chip) demonstrated 67% better performance over the IBM result of 1197.51 SPECjAppServer2004 JOPS@Standard which used 4-core IBM p570 with 4.7GHz POWER6 processors. The Sun SPARC Enterprise T5220 used as Application server has 3.8x better power-performance and has 7.3x better SWaP than the IBM p570 power6. Enterprise T5120 used as database servrer has 3.4 better power-performance and has 13.5x better SWaP as the IBM p550.

Disclosure Statement:

SPECjAppServer2004 1 Sun SPARC Enterprise T5220 (8 cores, 1 chip) and 1 Sun SPARC Enterprise T5120 (8 cores, 1 chip) 2000.92 SPECjAppServer2004 JOPS@Standard. 1 IBM p570 (4 cores, 2 chips) and 1 IBM p550 (4 cores, 2 chips) 1197.51 SPECjAppServer2004 JOPS@Standard. SPEC, SPECjAppServer reg tm of Standard Performance Evaluation Corporation. Results from www.spec.org as of 10/10/2007.

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Here is the link to spec.org which has one websphere 6.1 on power6

http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/jAppServer2004-20070829-00082.html

Posted by Thalapathi on November 16, 2007 at 11:37 AM PST #

Thanks for the correction, I've updated the original posting to correct it.

Posted by BM Seer on November 16, 2007 at 01:40 PM PST #

Sometimes I wonder if your posts are simply veiled attempts to get others to do research for you :) Have you happened to examine IBM's regularly updated system performance brief for power systems? It probably won't give you everything for which you clamor but then I suppose that if Sun is so eager to have numbers for all those things some of their recent profits could go to purchasing systems and making direct measurements.

Posted by rick jones on November 17, 2007 at 10:27 AM PST #

Actually I looked at the IBM system performance brief, which always tries to leave the impression they do everything and do it very well. When the truth is they avoid lots of benchmarks and avoid comparisons.

Posted by BM Seer on November 20, 2007 at 09:21 AM PST #

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