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"Estimated" what does that mean for Sun's UltraSPARC T2

Wednesday Aug 08, 2007

Why does Sun designate yesterday's performance results as "estimates", why that word? Did some Sun marketeer just throw a dart and just pick a big number. No. All UltraSPARC T2 SPEC CPU and SPEC OMP metrics quoted are from full “reportable” runs, but are nevertheless designated as “estimates” because they use pre-production systems. Sun customer systems, to be announced later, are expected to perform similarly. SPEC rules do allow comparing these preliminary scores and published result.

Is Sun the only vendor to use this clause? No. Intel and AMD have made a long history of using preliminary numbers at chip announcements to get the word out about their performance. Sun is just following their lead, and trumping their performance :)

Ok, back to why the word "estimates?" The SPEC CPU committee voted to use that specific word for preliminary scores. Members include IBM, Intel, AMD, HP, .... And every employee of a member company must follow the rules.

    By license agreement, SPEC members and customers agree to run and report results as specified in each benchmark suite's documentation. from SPEC FAQ

Postings on Sun's UltraSPARC T2 performance:
http://blogs.sun.com/bmseer/entry/performance_of_the_new_sun
http://blogs.sun.com/bmseer/entry/ultrasparc_t2_more_floating_point
http://blogs.sun.com/sprack/entry/ultrasparc_t2_world_class_crypto
OpenSPARC T2:
http://blogs.sun.com/d/entry/ultrasparc_t2_documentation_available
Ubunu (aready booted on UltraSPARC T2):
Ubuntu & Canonical & UltraSPARC T1 (May06).

As a Sun employee I try my best to follow every rule when talking about results in public, but I'm an engineer so sometimes it is hard to follow all the legalese so I try to correct things as soon as I see an error. And I do my best to remind other Sun bloggers to put in the proper disclosure statement for SPEC & TPC benchmark results. Though quite honestly I wish SPEC & TPC would streamline the rules, make them more consistent, and minimize the lengthy disclosure statements.

Of course because Sun is in the lead and because I made some suggestions, I'm sure this entry will be fully scrutinized by every competitor. If I made errors let me know in the comments and I will correct them.

Disclosure Statement

SPEC, SPECint, SPECfp, and SPEComp registered trademarks of Standard Performance Evaluation Corporation. Results from www.spec.org as of August 6, 2007. Actually this one is short because I didn't put any specific results in this posting, the ones at the links have the more extensive disclosures because they show scores & results.

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Solaris and Sun Studio compiler important to UltraSPARC T2 announcements & benchamrks

Tuesday Aug 07, 2007

Beyond UltraSPARC T2 what other technologies matter? There are two more keys to Sun providing such effective performance in the new single-chip Sun UltraSPARC T2 64-thread processor, that is Solaris (and now of course OpenSolaris) and Sun Studio compilers. Here is a nice slide of the history of hardware history of SPARC, I borrowed this on from an entry in "On the Record" SPARC History from Sun's On the record blog -- blogs.sun.com/ontherecord

An important thing to remember that besides Sun's long history with SPARC, we've also lead the way in parallelism. Over 15 years ago, Solaris supported 64-way SPARC systems and provided near-linear scaling. For those of you old enough to remember, at that time IBM, SGI, HP, and everyone else thought there was no way Sun could produce effective 64-way systems. They were wrong and now our competitors have finally all have introduced systems with lots of processors and/or threads.

Solaris and Sun Studio compilers have a LONG history and lots of experience with industrial-strength applications with lots of threads.

Solaris and Sun Studio compilers were great at scaling to 64-way systems 15 years ago, with a lot more experience and hard work we are even better at scaling and will scale to lots more threads right now. Many thanks to all of those compiler & OS engineers!

Postings on Sun's UltraSPARC T2 performance:
http://blogs.sun.com/bmseer/entry/performance_of_the_new_sun
http://blogs.sun.com/bmseer/entry/ultrasparc_t2_more_floating_point
http://blogs.sun.com/sprack/entry/ultrasparc_t2_world_class_crypto
OpenSPARC T2:
http://blogs.sun.com/d/entry/ultrasparc_t2_documentation_available

...I've focused on Solaris, but there are options, for example Ubuntu. Ubuntu has already booted on the UltraSPARC T2.

As as a reminder Ubuntu and Canonical proved it on an UltraSPARC T1 almost 14 months ago, see this article on that work.

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