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Tuesday Nov 28, 2006

More F3 Demos

Here are a few more F3 demos.

Several are replicas of Flash programs:

  1. Bentley Continental Flying Spur
  2. Lotus Cars USA
  3. Nike 2005 Home Page

Others are replicas of Java programs written by Romain Guy:

  1. Painter
  2. Spline Editor

There's also a (partial) replica of the Winamp MP3 player, which uses the pure Java JLayer MP3 player to play MP3 files and supports Winamp classic skins (use the Next/Prev buttons to switch skins). Interestingly, I never actually installed Winamp or ran it myself. I simply programmed the F3 version according to the skin specification. Winamp skins are actually just zip files containing Windows bitmap (bmp) files with certain conventional names and specific layouts.

A Google search demo using Google's soap API, which demonstrates HTML templating with F3, and also has a fancy search control based on artwork from a Yahoo widget.

Finally, there's a standalone version of the interactive F3 editor, "F3Pad". This was inspired in part by XAMLPad. Note that other than watching the XAMLPad video, I've never actually used it.

The demo launcher also includes all the demos I've previously posted. Remember if you're using Java 1.6 you'll need to click on the F3 icon in your system tray to shut down the whole application.

Posted at 08:45AM Nov 28, 2006 by Christopher Oliver in F3  |  Comments[152]

Comments:

Hi,
How can I obtain F3 ? Has it been released ? I did see the spec here http://blogs.sun.com/chrisoliver/resource/f3.html but not sure of the availability of the impl.
Thanks

Posted by anon on November 28, 2006 at 09:23 AM PST #

OK, so you've definitely got me interested. I know this gets asked a lot, but when can we expect to get our hands on this?

Posted by Anonymous on November 28, 2006 at 11:21 AM PST #

Wow! This F3 thing seems to get really cool! Keep on with it! And give it to us!!

Posted by chbeer on November 28, 2006 at 01:43 PM PST #

Chris, Standing ovation for the work, and yes I mean it :-) Did SUN acquire SeeBeyond solely to get you and you team ? I'd say $35M well spent ;-) Congratulations to the Million dollar man and the team !!!

Posted by Akhilesh Mritunjai on November 28, 2006 at 02:23 PM PST #

Hi! Great job! But i want to ask you about dividing of structure from design. I mean, like html+css (and js): there we have something like MVC (html: model, css: view, js: control). And i don't see that flexibility with f3.. show me the truth :)

Posted by xVik on November 28, 2006 at 09:34 PM PST #

Yes, this looks very exciting. But I too would like to see some kind of CSS like support. Maybe it's already there. Also, I've only seen the demos, so this may not even make sense in relation to F3 as a language and idea, but what about separating presentation from functionality? This doesn't have to be a "hard" separation. I'd want to declaratively construct an interface and then bind that to a separate controller. The "interface" can still include some functionality specific to the view: animations, transitions, etc. But the controller is what drives and triggers these things (the controller might say, "show the user B" and the view will do a transitional animation from the currently showing A to B). This would allow the developer, the graphic designer (and/or the UI specialist) to work independently of each other. It looks like it wouldn't be hard to do this programmatically, but since we are creating a new language geared to UI, it sure would be nice to have streamlined support. Again, this may already be present. And, of course, when do we get to play with F3? :)

Posted by Andy DePue on November 29, 2006 at 09:19 AM PST #

I could not get these demos to work on snv_53. I tried three things:

1. Click the URL within firefox.

2. Run it with: javaws URL

3. rm /usr/java && ln -s jdk/jdk1.6.0 /usr/java # then (re-try tests 1 and 2)

Clues?

Posted by blah on November 29, 2006 at 10:15 PM PST #

Not sure this is your problem, but you may need to install an updated version of jai. http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/

Posted by Chris Oliver on November 30, 2006 at 09:09 AM PST #

this is truly awesome

Posted by nabulio on November 30, 2006 at 12:17 PM PST #

I'm looking at the demo and it looks really cool. Very much like the sort of things I've seen done with Flash. But I'm confused, what is F3 exactly? Is it a widget toolkit? Can I build really cool GUIs with nice gradients and animations like the way I build Swing apps? boxlight

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[Trackback] In "Poor Man's Multi-VM" Chris Oliver discusses his JApplication class, which he uses for his awesome F3 demos. Let's walk through the code, and see how deep the rabbit hole goes ;)

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err... WOW!!! How did I not know about this before JavaOne! I'd heard of F3 but didnt know anything about these demos. This is fantastic. Outstanding work.

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