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About 50 people attended the talk, which was more than I expected and came as a bit of a surprise. I took a quick poll before I started to talk and learned that:

It looks like we need to do some active encouragement of our user base to upgrade!

The talk was about an hour long and seemed to be well received. It wasn't terribly technical, as I didn't think that would be appropriate for the audience, but I concentrated on introducing four main areas of Solaris 10: Resource Management (including zones), DTrace, Predictive Self Healing, Privileges. I also briefly covered other areas and quickly plugged OpenSolaris. Questions centered on: Dtrace/Resource Management performance impact, wireless drivers, installation problems and the availability of the next release.

The BCS committee told me that they thought the talk had gone well and I was personally satisfied that I'd managed to generate some interest in Solaris. I was a little disappointed that there were so few detailed technical questions. Also disappointing was the realisation that hardly anyone, even in the BCS, used a version of Solaris newer than five years old!

*Thanks to Jim Mauro for providing the bulk of the slides that I used for the talk and to Bryan Cantrill whose DTrace slides I stole and re-hashed mercilessly.

Comments:

Dude, that's because to use Solaris 10 you need to spend thousands of dollars in Sun courses to figure out all the xml and java gunk. Upgrading to Solaris 10 for these folk would mainly mean more work and complications.

Posted by 216.58.44.227 on October 13, 2005 at 04:55 PM BST #

One problem with upgrades is that Sun did an awful job with prior releases. Things like the fiasco of refusing to let customers run Solaris 9 on the SunBlade 1500 for many many months still rankle. A concerted effort has been made with Solaris 10, but it still took a while to get things like SunRay working. (And 3rd-party vendors don't help much.) I don't understand the comment about xml and java gunk. At a guess, the xml part is about the use of xml by SMF, but one of the advantages of SMF is that you can use simple commands to manage services rather than editing arcane files, which is actually very much easier.

Posted by Peter Tribble on October 14, 2005 at 10:09 AM BST #

In the Computing School of a North East of England Uni. we've gone live with Solaris 10 for our student-facing systems, both Sun SPARC workstations and Sun Rays (using SRSS 3.1). Some academic and technical staff are also using Sun Rays with a Solaris 10 x64 server.

Although we didn't have the luxury of a large training budget, we did have the benefit of a non-production environment for an extended period of familiarisation. Switching to Sol 10 wasn't without pain and the SMF, in particular, took some getting used to but it was definitely worth the effort. Stability and performance have been first rate.

The upgrade has been well received by the users. Certainly the Sol. 10 JDS 3 desktop is proving more popular with the students than any previous Gnome or CDE incarnation.

I guess for us it is the combination of Solaris 10 and Sun Ray Server 3.1 (rather than Solaris 10 alone) that has ensured that Solaris is going to be more rather than less important in the future.

Posted by Alan Lumsden on October 14, 2005 at 03:29 PM BST #

<p/> Well, I'm also puzzled about the comment about XML and Java gunk. Peter's observation is absolutely correct, in that all areas of the system which use XML also provide a simple command line interface or a library for manipulation. You never need to edit raw XML. I don't know about Java gunk... <p/> Training costs lie well outside my area of expertise, but I've got an uninformed opinion, so I may as well express it! :-) <p/> If you look at the software that is free (as in, no charge to use if you've downloaded and installed the OS) in Solaris 10, it's not too much to expect to have to pay a little money in training to learn how to use this stuff effectively. If you really want to cut down costs, then just use the freely available documentation online in the form of blueprints or at docs.sun.com.

Posted by Gary on October 17, 2005 at 06:50 PM BST #

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