Monday June 02, 2008 Apple's WWDC still a measly one third the size of JavaOne conference
The Apple World Wide Developer Conference (WWDC) sadly can only draw about 5,000 attendees--and that would be a record for them, especially with developers wanting to port Java ME technology to their iPhone and iPod Touch. See: Apple's WWDC secretly wishes it could be like JavaOne Here's a quote: Adobe and Sun have also been feverishly working out how to port their Flash and Java ME platforms to the iPhone, apparently without much help from Apple.So, I got an idea: If Apple opened up the iPhone with a Java ME port, they would probably get about double amount of people attending their WWDC. Wouldn't that be nice? :-) |
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WWDC has virtually nothing to do with Java. And it should stay that way. Why would Apple want to add more seats just so they can pack them with whiny Java devs complaining that Apple isn't supporting Java well enough. You can stay at JavaOne and leave WWDC to Cocoa devs as it was intended.
Posted by Jason on June 04, 2008 at 10:41 AM PDT #
And still 100x as talented....
Posted by Robert on June 04, 2008 at 11:08 AM PDT #
You're right. Can't argue with that logic. <cough> <ahem> :-)
Hinkmond
Posted by Hinkmond Wong on June 04, 2008 at 11:14 AM PDT #
Here is the funny part that you missed in your post about WWDC. Apple has less than 1/3rd of the PC market, less than 1/3rd of the mobile market, and less than 1/3rd of the enterprise market - yet they are attracting 1/3rd the attendees that are going to JavaOne. If anything it says something bad about the awfulness of what JavaOne has become as opposed to WWDC which as far as developer conference go is actually pretty good.
Posted by Gregory Pierce on June 04, 2008 at 05:52 PM PDT #
Hi Gregory,
Shyeah! At least you guys won't have the Norovirus! :-)
Hopefully... ;-)
http://www.noroblog.com/2008/05/articles/norovirus-outbreaks/more-than-70-catch-norovirus-at-javaone/
Ick. Poo.
Hinkmond
Posted by Hinkmond Wong on June 04, 2008 at 05:57 PM PDT #
And about 17 times the market cap.
But at least Sun is very open about product roadmaps. Apple sucks at that.
Posted by Charles Soto on June 04, 2008 at 08:16 PM PDT #
This post is supposed to argue that a "small" attendance is a bad thing?! I think I might vomit at the idea that more than 5000 people are going to be packed into the already tight space at moscone west. it was pretty bad last year. and that was last year, where it didn't sell out. people sitting on the floor/standing due to lack of seating in popular sessions, wifi just crawling, long lines..
Besides, the 5000 figure is speculation from last year's number of attendees, where again, it didn't sell out - and that doesn't mean there's no demand for tickets. I can think of a couple dozen people at least that I know wanted to buy tickets to WWDC but didn't realize it was going to sell out so quickly. Some of them have paid high premiums to get tickets afterwards.
Plus, Apple prolly doesn't even have enough engineers who could deal with an onslaught of Java developers interested in iPhone development. And the idea of 5000+ Java developers wanting to port their apps to iPhone/iPod touch is also making me sick because so many of the _current_ devs give minimal to zero consideration to usability factors on an all-touchscreen phone like the iPhone (I'd also have to argue that that's the case on certain other phones as well). I can't imagine what it might be like if anyone, not just java devs, but anyone just decided to do that.
Posted by Jane on June 04, 2008 at 08:17 PM PDT #
Thanks for the comments, Charles & Jane!
(JNI drilling down to Cocoa Touch UI APIs can be one way to expose the correct iPhone APIs to use for Java apps that run on the iPhone. This gives app developers the option to program in Java, not just Objective-C. That's really what this issue boils down to: Freedom to Choose How to Develop for yourself, not dictated by one company).
Posted by Hinkmond Wong on June 04, 2008 at 08:30 PM PDT #