Though we don't release JavaFX for a few more hours the word has gotten out that we have added Mac support to JavaFX 1.0 but not Linux and Solaris. Sheesh those interwebs are fast!. So I'm writing to let you know the scoop, our reasoning, and our plans.
I'll say it: JavaFX 1.0 supports on Java 1.5+ for Mac and Java 1.6u10+ for Windows. Linux and Solaris are not supported in 1.0. In about 10 seconds the Twitter-sphere is going to light up with: "OMG! Why R U L1NUX H8RS! U R teh suck!" Please delay your tweet fingers for a few moments and allow me to explain.
We are going to support Linux and Solaris. We love both operating systems. Many of us use Linux every day. And Solaris is our own operating system. So we are working on it. And don't mean that in a "yeah, we'll get to it eventually" kind of way. I mean we are actively working on it right now. We have it in our continuous build system. Every time we build for Windows and Mac we are building for Linux and Solaris. We are fixing bugs in it. We are adding new features and testing. We are working on it and want to ship it just as much as you want to download it.
So why didn't we ship for Linux and Solaris in 1.0 along with Mac & Windows?
Simple. It's not ready yet. Certain features are there but other features are broken or not performing well enough. In particular video and graphics hardware acceleration have historically been tricky to implement properly on Linux and Solaris, as users of native apps for those operating systems know all too well. But we are working on it and will ship it.
So why didn't we drop those broken features and still ship the rest?
We thought about it but JavaFX means something. It means video and audio. It means accelerated graphics and animation. If we took out some features the it wouldn't really be JavaFX anymore. So we decided to let it bake a little longer until it's ready. It's that simple.
So I want to be crystal clear: We are working on it. We will ship it as soon as we can. We know how important Linux and Solaris are. They may be a small (but growing) percentage of the consumer desktop market, but they are used by a much bigger percentage of you, the application developers. We are going to ship for Linux and Solaris.
You may now commence your tweeting. Thanks. :)
Wow, I didn't even know Linux and Solaris had a GUI !
/joke
Posted by Adrian on December 04, 2008 at 12:36 AM PST #
OMG! Why R U L1NUX H8RS! U R teh suck!
Posted by Twitter-sphere on December 04, 2008 at 10:11 AM PST #
Waiting eagerly....
Posted by 12.210.169.242 on December 04, 2008 at 10:35 AM PST #
Thanks for the information Josh. I know you guys are working hard on getting Linux support ready. Is there a non-official Linux version of JavaFX that we can get that lacks the video and audio support (I know you said no to this in your post)? This wouldn't be a 1.0 release for Linux, just a "we know it's broken" preview #2 release for Linux. How could such a release hurt the JavaFX brand? Just clearly state that this is an official 1.0 releases for Windows and Mac and a "Preview 2" release for Linux.
I would like to start developing with JavaFX now. I run many Linux desktops but I don't own a single Mac or Windows machine (and I'm not going to buy one so I can use JavaFX -- that's why I picked Java in the first place, I don't need to worry about having to run Windows or Mac).
If the Linux version is going to be release in the next two weeks, then disregard my plea. If, on the other hand, the Linux version isn't going to be released in the next two months, then please just give us SOMETHING.
Despite being both a Developer and a Linux guy, I'm actually a very competent graphics guy with an eye for great design. I plan on making sensational JavaFX apps with mind-blowing awesomeness. My software may singlehandedly demand adoration for JavaFX and provide world peace... But I can't do any of that until I get my hands on a Linux version of JavaFX to start playing/learning! :-)
I LOVE that you guys are providing Video and Audio improvements. But for now, I just want a solid 2D scenegraph.
Help me, help you conquer with JavaFX.
Posted by Bryan on December 04, 2008 at 12:38 PM PST #
So do we have any ballpark time frames? I've been excitedly awaiting 1.0 for Linux support and now I'm a bit bummed. Are we talking one month, one quarter, one year?
Posted by Benjamin Johnson on December 04, 2008 at 12:48 PM PST #
OMG! Why R U L1NUX H8RS! U R teh suck!
Posted by jon on December 04, 2008 at 01:37 PM PST #
Thank you for explaining the absence of the *nix releases. It is a bit unfortunate, as it would have been great to have the JavaFX SDK ready for OS 2008.11. Any particular harm (besides time to market) to just waiting a bit more to have a 1.0 release for all the platforms? This is the strength and mantra of the Java platform.
It's also wonderful to see a lot of people interested in JavaFX and hence why the main site went down. However, it would have been nice to have converted all of the Flash movie players across all of Sun's site to JavaFX, to further promote and sell the technology.
All in all I'm still excited and hope I get the time to tinker with the SDK and make some cool looking applications.
Posted by Abraham Tehrani on December 04, 2008 at 01:46 PM PST #
I appreciate the fact that you are not releasing it unfinished, but I was a little concerned because I'm unable to find any hints of a date. When the pre release came out, it was going to be when the release occurred. But now, there's no really date being talked about. Can you help us a little with a guestimated date?
Thanks,
Geoff
Posted by Geoff Ruscoe on December 04, 2008 at 02:57 PM PST #
=/ I'am dissapointed actually. I sure understand the release was faster to closed systems, but...nah. No, its kind of unfair, not for the "linux" users, but also to open solaris users.
Well, iam glad you had an explenation. And also, the team seems to put a big effort in having a god port of it to the oss. Well, do your best!!! And please, dont mind my post in the forum. I read this, after i had posted there =)
However, Iam wondering. What will be opensource and interesting, and what will be binaries and unwanted?
In wikipedia: "The core JavaFX runtime is still proprietary software and its code has not yet been released to the public"
Is that still true?
Keep up the god work and have a great christmas and a happy new year!
//Huf...I guess virtualbox and winXP again will do it...=/ ...Virtualbox 4 fedora 10...when?
Posted by Victor on December 04, 2008 at 03:22 PM PST #
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't very disappointed. So, following is the obligatory question: when?
Posted by Ben on December 04, 2008 at 03:48 PM PST #
sux
Posted by sux on December 04, 2008 at 04:25 PM PST #
Rrarr! Your logic makes my brane hurt! :3
That sounds awesome. But you will have to forgive us having a negative outlook and assuming the worst, whatwith the 64-bit Java browser plugin still missing when Java is inarguably a write-once-run-anywhere deal. ;>
Any links to test content, by the way?
Posted by Jonatan on December 04, 2008 at 04:29 PM PST #
But disappointing, but oh well. I can't wait to get started on some projects with this :) I was also hoping to do a tech talk on JavaFX early next year, so I'll be watching this day and night in anticipation, looking damn forward to it :D
Posted by Stephen on December 04, 2008 at 04:31 PM PST #
Thank god - and I *DO* assume it'll include content creation tools, the production software which compress the video into the VP6 format so that it is useful? or is this just more BS put out by Sun in regards to 'support' when in reality its nothing more than, "you're shit out of luck if you want to develop for JavaFX on anything other than Windows or Mac OS X".
Posted by Kaiwai on December 04, 2008 at 04:58 PM PST #
Hi,
I am good with that,
Just one query if you will, any chance of an ETA? ( off the top of head will do ).
Regards
Posted by NIgel Sollars on December 04, 2008 at 05:56 PM PST #
Hi,
I am good with that,
Just one query if you will, any chance of an ETA? ( off the top of head will do ).
Regards
Posted by NIgel Sollars on December 04, 2008 at 05:57 PM PST #
Wow. Thanks for belittling us all with the l33t sp33k there.
It's not like anyone's surprised that a tool for rich web apps is behind on non-mainstream OSes. Maybe it's hard to write this stuff for Linux and Solaris, maybe fewer people care... I always thought the real reason was that people coming up with ways to break the web were just really committed to that end, and wanted to Do It Right. That is, if you're going to make complex client-side code execution mandatory for the Web, you might as well also do it in an exclusionary way.
Frankly, I'm disappointed you even plan to support my operating system at all.
Posted by Al Dimond on December 04, 2008 at 06:59 PM PST #
During pre-release a Linux version was promised with 1.0 release. If you did no stick to that old promise, why should we believe your new promise?
The very fact that there is an outcry about lack of Linux version shows that there is a significant developer base in that OS waiting for JavaFX. Treating them as noise in twitter and asking them to commence tweeting shows your indifference towards the platform.
Posted by Chandru on December 04, 2008 at 09:04 PM PST #
I feel the SDK should have been released as a beta for Linux and Solaris with a strong disclaimer regarding the missing/broken features. This would have enabled developers to get a feel of the SDK and at least start writing simple applications which do not use those features.
Also, is there a roadmap/timeline on the SDK release for Linux/Solaris?
Posted by Parampreet on December 04, 2008 at 09:34 PM PST #
I hope it will not take a year (or years) to release JavaFX for gun/linux.
Posted by Zayed on December 04, 2008 at 09:54 PM PST #
Congrats on your release. You should've seen the email we got because our demo wasn't immediately available for VirtualBox; hopefully you won't be subjected to the same deluge.
I'm looking forward to kicking the tires on JavaFX. Again, congrats, and btw, nice looking blog!
Posted by Todd Patrick on December 04, 2008 at 11:51 PM PST #
I'll disband the mob that I'd been forming after discovering the lack of Linux support last night then! :-)
Posted by Graham on December 05, 2008 at 12:28 AM PST #
Maybe you should have delayed the windows release and concentrate on linux and Solaris versions: The biggest threat for the whole software industry, including Sun, is windows monopoly. With os-monopoly MS is able to kill competition in every software area, they are developing both the platfrom and applications. So putting windows version ahead of others (and giving more reasons not to use them) you are sawing the branch you are sitting on.
Posted by market on December 05, 2008 at 12:47 AM PST #
I love your explanation and I will keep waiting the Linux JavaFX. Before the Linux release, I have no idea how many efforts I should spend on it.
Posted by Yueyu on December 05, 2008 at 01:06 AM PST #
So let't all these Windows lusers do the beta testing and give Linux and Solaris a stable JavaFX in January, ok?
Posted by Peter Koch on December 05, 2008 at 01:55 AM PST #
Plain old lies!
Posted by whoa on December 05, 2008 at 03:30 AM PST #
Don't forget Solaris/Sparc.. the Solaris world isnt entirely Intel (and, I suspect, won't be for a looooong time.)
Us few, the proud, who run Solaris/Sparc on our desks have felt a bit left out lately with all the goodies (especially over at opensolaris..) being intel only lately.... What's with that?
Posted by Tim Smith on December 05, 2008 at 04:52 AM PST #
So does this support include Solaris for SPARC(R)?
Posted by Henkis on December 05, 2008 at 06:26 AM PST #
Recently I read that the Obama camp reveled in the chant:
What do we want?
PATIENCE!
When do we want it?
NOW!
I'm sure you get the drift.
Posted by Rambo Tribble on December 05, 2008 at 07:58 AM PST #
Hi,
OMG! Why R U L1NU... uh... okay... If you could possibly expand on "as soon as we can", that might help - as a developer, I know this isn't always easy, or possible with the powers that be, but are we talking days, weeks, months, ... years...?
By the way, I really hope this all works out for you - many of us do genuinely appreciate the work you all do.
Ghee
Posted by Ghee on December 05, 2008 at 10:57 AM PST #
I wonder about when will it be available for x86_64 linux. Looking at java plugin for firefox on x86_64 - probably never.
Funny thing is that JavaFX competitors (Adobe AIR and M$ Sliverlight) won't work under linux either. I mean, I know that Adobe is supposedly working on 64bit flash and there is work on Moonlight but I think we all know how it will pan out, some crippled software that crashes every 15 minutes and supports only 50% features from the real thing.
I hope all these three technologies will turn out as failures so that no one will use them and ordinary webbrowser with javascript will be enough to use the internet.
Sorry for complaining, I wish Sun the best, I appreciate their support of open source community but I fear it may be to late to catch up with Adobe and M$ :(
Posted by Martin on December 05, 2008 at 11:13 AM PST #
thank YOU for the total/overall/whole Java(FX) ;)
Posted by somebody on December 05, 2008 at 01:37 PM PST #
First post! MUWHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Posted by First on December 05, 2008 at 01:58 PM PST #
Linux 64, On2, FMX, JavaFX 1.0?
In the article here
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Interviews/wyant_jfx.html
JavaFX Media Lead Engineer Tony Wyant says On2 support for "Linux and Solaris will be supported in a future release". I read this to mean when JavaFX 1.0 Linux is ready the On2 media support will not be ready until a future release. If that's true that conflicts with the table here http://www.javafx.com/faq/#2 for FXM support.
By future release does Tony Wyant mean On2 media will be ready for Linux 64 in JavaFx 1.0 or some later release?
Posted by Jonathan Johnson on December 08, 2008 at 12:57 PM PST #
Ok, I just retrieved Flex 3 SDK on my Linux Workstation. Everything ready and works fine ... I dunno if I'll even give a try to JavaFX
Posted by toobad on December 09, 2008 at 08:55 AM PST #
guys, when you release a javaFX have U think about what the SOLARIS and LINUX USER will say about what have U done???? we know that is not a simple to create a javaFX under LINUX or SOLARIS but when U release it under WIndows and Mac it will be better if U release it together. MultiPlatforms is the Principle of Java Programming! if that Principle dont broke it cause it can broke the brand of Java. You have to decide it well before you release something! it is right or not!!!! MultiFlatforms, remember it. If You gonna release it just for 2 platforms it is not a multiflatforms, it is monopoly platforms. And if you release it just under two platfrom tell us when the time!!! you will release it!!!
This is the analogy of this situation.......
Sun MicroSystem have a four Child, they called SOLARIS, LINUX, MACHINTOSH, AND WINDOWS.... and then Sun give a very good toys to the two of their child but sun not gave it to the two another their child because the reason is "My Child this toys is difficult to use for you" and after that Sun says : I will release that in the future.......
And then their child just watch the Windows and Mac play with that toys, how do they feel the LINUX and SOLARIS playing a good toys in the front of them, and their papa never said when he will give their child the toys that their brother play with..... ya we just can watch!!!!!!!
Maybe U have a brother or a sister..... if U have feel what was i told U, i think U can feel what the USER of LINUX and SOLARIS FEEL...... I dont believe YOUR REASON, I JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU WILL DO NEXT WEEK, IT WILL BE RELEASED OR NOT..... WE ARE WAITING..........
Posted by gen5x4 on December 10, 2008 at 05:27 AM PST #
Erm, how do you stop email alerts on new comments?
Posted by jon on December 10, 2008 at 06:01 AM PST #
Hey Linux Guy...... how everything is going on?!!!!
Follow the steps in the following link to install javafx 1.0:
http://www.weiqigao.com/blog/2008/12/11/javafx_1_0_on_linux_netbeans_plugin.html
I done, javafx programs compiled and run very will
enjoy it.
Posted by Ahmed Al-Hashimi on December 13, 2008 at 10:47 AM PST #
Why have APPROVED comments been removed? I submitted a comment that was approved and posted on this blog on December 6, 2008. I've got the approval confirmation email, I checked from my home, from work, and from my smartphone and confirmed that my comment had been posted, and google's cache has a reference to my post on this blog, but now I see that it's gone absent. Strangely enough, it seems there are no posts from December 6th or 7th anymore.
Anyway, I suggest people read the java.net editor's daily blog at:
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/editors/archives/2008/12/make_a_little_n.html
where the editor says "Would holding up JavaFX on 98% of desktops in hopes that Linux will get its multimedia act together really be in the interest of Sun or Java? If so, hold your breath and think "everything should be in Ogg" over and over again until you get your wish. The rest of us have better stuff to do."
Blaming linux for the multimedia problems listed in Eric Raymond's 2006 paper:
http://catb.org/esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html
distorts the paper's analysis. And how does this relate to Solaris?
Posted by sunburned on December 14, 2008 at 10:30 PM PST #
I guess I can wait. Duke Nuken Forever too...
Posted by Roy Schestowitz on December 24, 2008 at 06:44 AM PST #
I just like Solaris
Posted by genY on January 05, 2009 at 03:08 PM PST #
An update has been released for other platforms yet not even the first stable release is out for Linux users. :(
Posted by Chandru on January 14, 2009 at 06:22 AM PST #
Keep up the good work and I will wait patiently for the "official" linux release.
Posted by TheGreatestMale on January 14, 2009 at 11:47 PM PST #
...then I try adobe air
Posted by vifito on January 22, 2009 at 05:01 PM PST #
I suggest you to release at least a pre-alpha version, so we can help testing it. Maybe for people on the SDN or something.
Regards.
Posted by Gabriel Acevedo H. on January 26, 2009 at 05:59 AM PST #
sooo, its been nearly two months... are you still "working on it" or have the layoffs derailed the Linux distro? Honestly what's the status?
Posted by Sourceroot on January 27, 2009 at 08:55 PM PST #
Like many others I am waiting for a linux version of javafx.
I would appreciate some information concerning the current status.
Can we expect it soon? In any case, a very rough estimate of its release date would be helpful. In the first quarter of 2009 perhaps?
Posted by James Housden on February 02, 2009 at 04:25 AM PST #
Actually I didn't get why u made Windows version at all
Posted by Teoslav on February 05, 2009 at 06:23 AM PST #
You really shot yourselves in the foot here. Making the Linux community wait for months (years?) after release is not exactly helping you in the PR department.
Posted by Niklas on February 10, 2009 at 03:38 PM PST #
Thanks for the post. Exactly what I wanted to hear. Can't believe the flack your getting here though I am surprised that you didn't wait for Solaris support to fully work!
I look forward to the release. I guess I'll just need to develop on a windows box :-| till it comes.
Posted by Alan Macdonald on February 14, 2009 at 03:40 AM PST #
I think Microsoft is going make silverlight for linux first xP
Posted by Brian Farrel on February 16, 2009 at 03:43 PM PST #
Alright... you have explained, we somehow bought it. But not disclosing your ETA... Suspicious. Why can't you disclose it? Why can't you simply tell us when?
You know, some of us want to test-drive it, to decide if we will give it a try at production projects. Some of us are the ones who decide which technologies the companies we work at/for are going to use in the next few years. And _most_ of us are using Linux, not Windows or Mac.
Posted by Rodrigo Hartmann on February 26, 2009 at 03:51 PM PST #
I understand that the Linux/*Solaris versions are on the way, however I think it brings kind of a two sided image to Sun's reasoning. It seems as if you were in a hurry to push out this technology before it was supported on all platforms. Why not push the launch of JavaFX back until all platforms were ready and give the image of a solid technology, versus how it currently feels. It feels as if you put all your effort into the two most popular consumer OS's which does make consumer sense, but from a development standpoint it doesn't.
Posted by Michael Brown on March 06, 2009 at 11:09 AM PST #
.. working hard to get these versions out? It seems that you have a very long breath.
Don't fool yourself, this project is on its way down - it seems to have serious portability or even architectural problems.
However, it might take another couple of months until you bring it where others already are. So what are the reasons not to use .Net, Adobe Air/Flex, or simply Java? It looks like a struggled reinvention of the wheel. Is there still a heartbeat of this branch?
Posted by Siegmund Gorr on March 06, 2009 at 01:36 PM PST #
OK. Now i know the problem is, why this JavaFX only available for Mac and Windows. I'll be wait JavaFx for Linux.
Posted by Muhammad Ghazali a.k.a ghaNOZ on March 06, 2009 at 08:11 PM PST #
soooooo what?
Are you still working on linux version?
silverlight 2.0 is out. AI, and you are still not able/intent to make your stuff work on linux and .... solaris?
No solaris? aren't you hired by SUN?
Well I guess my nightmare finally come ture: Microsoft has bought SUN and renamed it to MOON.
Posted by purpureleaf on March 07, 2009 at 07:58 AM PST #
soooooo what?
Are you still working on linux version?
silverlight 2.0 is out. AI, and you are still not able/intent to make your stuff work on linux and .... solaris?
No solaris? aren't you hired by SUN?
Well I guess my nightmare finally come ture: Microsoft has bought SUN and renamed it to MOON.
Posted by purpureleaf on March 07, 2009 at 08:12 AM PST #
Well, It's March 11th 2009, been waiting rather impatiently for the JavaFX release for Solaris, since i completely migrated my entire home network to Solaris SXDE due to it performance, easy of administration, etc etc etc.
On your download page you encourage me to use Mac OSX, or Windows. Not gonna happen mate....
Windows is time consuming just to keep running
Mac OSX although much better and easier on my eyes is not what i am looking for
I am a developer, I use real tools to code. Sun Studio for C, Netbeans for Java. Am I going to have to wait another year? or two? how about 3? or is this one of those promised ports that will never make it to day light?
Perhaps you should report to Johnathan Schwartz regarding your progress.
You got it working on mobiles, and STILL left Solaris, and Linux at the back of the bus waiting.
whats going on here?... Release the source code to the Open Source community perhaps WE can succeed where you keep failing....
I am an AVID Java & Sun supporter! If i could i tatoo it on my back...
here I am left waiting.... No I will not use windows! NO I will not use Mac!
Thats it thats all, so if you don't port, you loose a developer, and i'll just keep using swing and awt for my interfaces. Not only that i'll make fun of the entire JavaFX developer team for being toads!
Posted by Evans on March 11, 2009 at 03:09 PM PDT #
Well, It's March 11th 2009, been waiting rather impatiently for the JavaFX release for Solaris, since i completely migrated my entire home network to Solaris SXDE due to it performance, easy of administration, etc etc etc.
On your download page you encourage me to use Mac OSX, or Windows. Not gonna happen mate....
Windows is time consuming just to keep running
Mac OSX although much better and easier on my eyes is not what i am looking for
I am a developer, I use real tools to code. Sun Studio for C, Netbeans for Java. Am I going to have to wait another year? or two? how about 3? or is this one of those promised ports that will never make it to day light?
Perhaps you should report to Johnathan Schwartz regarding your progress.
You got it working on mobiles, and STILL left Solaris, and Linux at the back of the bus waiting.
whats going on here?... Release the source code to the Open Source community perhaps WE can succeed where you keep failing....
I am an AVID Java & Sun supporter! If i could i tatoo it on my back...
here I am left waiting.... No I will not use windows! NO I will not use Mac!
Thats it thats all, so if you don't port, you loose a developer, and i'll just keep using swing and awt for my interfaces. Not only that i'll make fun of the entire JavaFX developer team for being toads!
Posted by Evans on March 11, 2009 at 03:10 PM PDT #
Hmm... May be we will not see version for Linux/Solaris ? Just ... at least 2 month go away... oh...
Posted by Pavel on March 12, 2009 at 05:57 AM PDT #
OMG! Why R U 5UN H8RS! U R teh suck!
Posted by DW on March 15, 2009 at 10:52 AM PDT #
So, now, more than three months and a minor revision to JavaFX 1.1 later: When will JavaFX be released for Linux and Solaris?
Posted by Frank Finner on March 17, 2009 at 12:21 AM PDT #
I'm still waiting. Meanwhile, Flash has been supported on Linux for a long time.
Posted by Don on March 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM PDT #
The "accelerated graphics" excuse should go away if ibm buys sun. The prehistoric javafx, circa 11/7, had ibm's scene graph jazz, which was quite fast on linux.
Posted by ter on March 18, 2009 at 03:47 PM PDT #
Hehe.. this must be more than a little embarrassing for Sun with their "write once, run anywhere" slogan!
Posted by Kim on March 25, 2009 at 06:53 PM PDT #
We are waiting..........
It must be atleast time to give us a update about what happens.
Posted by Roland on March 29, 2009 at 01:52 PM PDT #
ummmmm
are you still working on linux/solaris version ?
or javaFX Failed in other platforms (Window/Mac) so that you stopped work on linux! I DON`T KNOW.
SUN Why you didn't support your platform!
Posted by Nasser on March 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM PDT #
So there we go, April 1st, and still the message: "JavaFX 1.1.1 is not currently supported on your operating system. We encourage you to try JavaFX on Windows XP, Windows Vista or Mac OS X". So much for cross-platform...
Any ETA on the Linux release? Maybe it would be a fun announcement on the coming JavaOne... Looking at the JavaOne schedule, JavaFX is all over the place, so that would be an awesome time...
Posted by SurfMan on April 01, 2009 at 02:31 AM PDT #
Still waiting. It is no clear date?
Posted by Jon Kartago Lamida on April 01, 2009 at 11:36 PM PDT #
It's April 6th 2009 and... there's still no JavaFX for solaris.
Maybe IBM can crack the whip.
Posted by Sly Slipstream on April 06, 2009 at 01:19 AM PDT #
I'm sure you're working on JavaFX. Josh! Could you give us some info on current development events regarding to Linux and JavaFX? We'd like to see how much trouble you guys at Sun have to face till you can give us a public release. :)
Or did I miss something?
Oh yeah I miss JavaFX on Linux :)
Kind Regards
Posted by Zoltán Baráti on April 07, 2009 at 10:59 PM PDT #
They won't give a release date, because they probably have no idea, because they put it on the back burner, it's going to stay there, and they will perpetually report that they are working on it.
.... sad state of affairs, what worse they won't bother reading the comments here so basically we're talking to each other about how disappointed we are.
Posted by Evans on April 10, 2009 at 07:46 AM PDT #
We are still waiting for Linux version. :D
Posted by Reza on April 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM PDT #
Although I am not holding my breath for Linux version, I would love to see Opensolaris one. Go JavaFX for Opensolaris! Go!
Posted by Slava on April 15, 2009 at 10:45 AM PDT #
...and the looser is: <first name> <last name> as user of (Linux|Solaris)...
Posted by paschelino on April 24, 2009 at 05:05 AM PDT #
This sucks big time!! No Linux = adobe air and its goodbye from him and goodbye from me :-(
Posted by me on April 28, 2009 at 02:52 PM PDT #
"In particular video and graphics hardware acceleration have historically been tricky to implement properly on Linux and Solaris"
OK, I give you that the availability of codecs are more limited and sometimes drivers missing. But to call it "tricky to" implement is a bit harsh. Call it for what it is, lack of drivers and codecs.
Posted by Peter on May 09, 2009 at 03:57 PM PDT #
JavaFX in OpenSolaris 2009.06? I stumbled up the link below that contains entry about JavaFX SDK:
http://www.gnome.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new/
JavaFX SDK
JavaFX, a platform for creating and delivering rich internet applications, comes to OpenSolaris for the first time! The latest Java Runtime Environment (JRE) has also been included, 1.6.13. Install the JavaFX SDK 1.2 from the extra/ repository and get developing!
Posted by George on May 19, 2009 at 01:58 PM PDT #
I don't mean to sound inpatient but its 05/20/2009 and no new news on javaFX on Linux. Has Linux support been dropped all together?
Posted by freddy on May 19, 2009 at 09:14 PM PDT #
I develop Java on Ubuntu. I have a Mac to *play* around with, but it is not my platform of choice.
So now, I've looked (not programmed) a few times at JavaFX and when I see "supported on Windows and Mac OS X" I turn away.
Seriously. A very important selling point of Java is platform independence, so where is that? Why would anybody adopt JavaFX over anything else? I and probably a lot of other alienated developers will not learn/use/love it. It will fail.
Now, just give us a "broken" "limited" beta version, and I will believe you and take JavaFX seriously. Until then, goodbye.
An alienated developer
Posted by Mark on May 20, 2009 at 04:30 AM PDT #
Hey, must be something in the wind, a bunch of us are in here checking for progress.
/Quote
We are going to support Linux and Solaris. We love both operating systems. Many of us use Linux every day. And Solaris is our own operating system. So we are working on it. And don't mean that in a "yeah, we'll get to it eventually" kind of way.
/End Quote
Yeah right!! What counts as eventually? A six-month release deadline, or a Microsoft patch that takes 2 years? We can see that you guys have been terribly busy improving and adding all kinds of features and candy. Question is, when can -I- start playing with it???
I'm sitting here with a Sunray and a SUSE laptop at work, and ZERO JavaFX love.
What's up??
Posted by Sun QCS on May 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM PDT #
Alright, here I am again posting, still sitting on SXDE... waiting for JavaFX to be available for Linux and Solaris. instead of saying nothing, and doing nothing, at least tell us how far along you are. 20% done, 30%, SOMETHING don't just staple your mouths shut. I WTF mate! I'm using your operating System I THINK IT'S GREAT! why wasn't it ported to Solaris first! .... where are you getting your coders? they're to busy fixing the Windows/MAC versions porting it to different devices to port over the SDK. I mean get a CLUE you(JavaFX Dev) Microsoft SELL OUTS! I don't understand why Scott McNealy hasn't flogged you all into the floor. Why aren't the rest of the Sun employees laughing at you? I would!
Posted by okEnough on May 25, 2009 at 05:13 AM PDT #
Zzzzzzz...
The most important feature of Java used to be its portability. Now it seems that's no longer a priority.
Posted by Ramon Casha on May 29, 2009 at 01:25 AM PDT #
Hey, I hope the Linux version is comming now with JavaFX 1.2 I could use it right away.
Posted by suvi on June 02, 2009 at 03:06 AM PDT #
So they introduced the Java Store at JavaOne this morning. James Gosling made comment about it being the ultimate way to distribute apps to Windows, Mac and Linux.... !?!? How on earth can a JavaFX application deploy to Linux when you can't even run it on Linux?
We had to move to the Flex API on our system. I didn't want to, I wanted to go JavaFX but how can I when every workstation and all but one server we run are Linux based? So disappointed.
Posted by Chris on June 02, 2009 at 11:14 AM PDT #
I hate this. I was so excited to give this a shot after going through the videos of JavaOne. Though JavaFX runs on my ubuntu machine from NetBeans, I wanted to see how my app looks in mobile emulator, guess what no JavaFX for mobile emulator for Linux :(
Posted by Kiran on June 03, 2009 at 10:45 PM PDT #
I DO assume it'll include content creation tools, the production software which compress the video into the VP6 format so that it is useful? or is this just more BS put out by Sun in regards to 'support' when in reality its nothing more than, "you're shit out of luck if you want to develop for JavaFX on anything other than Windows or Mac OS X".
Posted by club penguin on June 06, 2009 at 06:33 PM PDT #