Why is Solaris 10 so successful in the market? It's all about platforms, developers, OEM providers and application availability.
Platforms
Solaris 10 runs on the major volume platforms in the industry: Sparc, Intel and AMD. Contrary to popular opinion (and competitive FUD), the Sparc architecture is NOT a proprietary architecture. It is an industry standard and open source architecture that anyone can replicate (and have already). On the other hand, the Intel X86 architecture (while a defacto standard) is propriety and can only be replicated using an expensive and legally difficult clean room reverse engineering process.
Developers
Solaris 10 supports developers by being available for free download, being able to run on low-cost x86 laptop and desktop systems and providing a vibrant open source community for developing new enhancements. Don't forget our great development toolkit.
OEM Vendors
Solaris 10 can be purchased from the major hardware vendors in the industry through OEM agreements: Sun, Dell, IBM, Fujitsu/Siemens and Intel.
Applications
Solaris 10 has a larger application catalog than any other Unix or Linux product in the market place.
| All Results | 6620 Apps |
| SPARC | 5653 Apps |
| X64 | 3527 Apps |
Why should you care?
You don't buy hardware or operating systems because they're cool or keep your data center warm. You buy for applications. Choosing a platform that is available from major vendors, runs on a variety of platforms (large and small), supports your developers and has a larger application catalog should be high on your list.
What about the SunFire V480? Currently nothing but Solaris will run on this; *BSD and Linux is unable to run according to kernel developers because the hardware for this series is closed. And believe me, people have tried.
Also, larger application catalog? Ubuntu and Debian have far more packages available and all can be installed from the command line without having to navigate to a website.
Posted by Will on October 13, 2008 at 05:40 PM EDT #
Will,
I'm not sure I understand your comment about the V480. I never said that it should or could run Linux or BSD. It was discontinued quite a few years ago and the V490 (US-4+) will soon reach end of life as well.
For their applications catalog, I was comparing commercial applications from Sun's and Red Hat's web sites.
For ease of adding freeware/shareware applications, you should try OpenSolaris which has a new Image Packaging System. Get it from OpenSolaris.com
Posted by Jim Laurent on October 13, 2008 at 07:56 PM EDT #
Comparing to Red Hat. That's like comparing your johnson to a child's. No kidding it's bigger. Oh and why should I invest in your hardware if it is no longer supported after only a few years? Ubuntu supports their OS longer than that.
Posted by Mike on October 15, 2008 at 11:33 AM EDT #
How can x86 be expensive to make but cheap to purchase/use? Start citing your sources. Is it short and tall too?
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Posted by 216.170.248.162 on October 15, 2008 at 01:03 PM EDT #
The V480 first shipped in August of 2002. With upgrades to the US-IV chipset it was renamed to the V490 whose last ship date is schedule for April of 2009. End of service life is not schedule until 2014. This system has supported Solaris 8 (with a 12 year support life span) Solaris 9 and Solaris 10.
Sun provide the best investment protection in the industry for our customers rhough long life cycle support operating systems and hardware as well as guaranteed binary compatibility for Solaris applications. Ubuntu and Red Hat DO NOT guarantee binary compatibility.
Posted by Jim Laurent on October 15, 2008 at 04:15 PM EDT #
http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/allpackages?format=txt.gz
jaunty package number: 30143
top level support for 3000 a year.
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Linux isn't supposed to 'guarantee binary compatibility,' it needs to be free-form to make it do whatever you want it to do. Functionally is lost when old stuff isn't allowed to just die.
You can't be real, Solaris is around only because linux has sucked pretty badly until a few years ago.
I have the entire linux community for support plus professional support from the people that actually wrote the code. Sun will never have that kind of developmental support.
Also, I've gotten used to just apt-geting something now instead of installing it by hand. Ubuntu will usually (9 times out of 10) have the program I want all ready to go for me.
Also, solaris takes over 9000 years to boot a recent dual-core pc. >:
Posted by Mike on April 02, 2009 at 03:27 PM EDT #
Some of my comments are unfair, but in all seriousness, I do like Sun, but not Solaris.
Just IMAGINE Solaris tools/utilities with a linux kernel.
Sun, please, work on your other projects. Continue contributing to opensource.
Why is java or openoffice so successful????
Posted by Mike on April 02, 2009 at 03:39 PM EDT #
Mike,
Thanks for your comments on my blog. I'm a little confused, however. In your first posting you mention how many more utilities Linux has but in your second you ask for Solaris tool with a Linux kernel.
I'm thinking that you really meant that you would like the Solaris kernel (with its advanced technologies such as ZFS, SMF, Dtrace, scalability, performance) but with Linux-like GNU tools and applications.
If this is the case, please download and check out OpenSolaris. It has a package manager with over 24,000 packages in the current repository and is very easy to use.
Posted by Jim Laurent on April 02, 2009 at 03:54 PM EDT #
NO
I would use the Solaris kernel (and Solaris in general) if it supported more than 5 pieces of hardware and was faster than a snail.
The tools Solaris has that 'just makes things easier' is what Linux needs. For people who don't want an eternity learning how to admin everything by hand or viewing/pausing/stopping services in a sane way.
ZFS is one of the few neat/special unique things. Even then, tools still do exist to do a ZFS thing in Linux, but not well at all. I use a system that creates an entire backup, once per day, but uses hard-links for files that are the same on the separate backup. Works good enough for me, I was looking into LVM niftyness, but its strongly suggested everywhere to not use LVM to create live snapshots for backup purposes.
Sun can make some great and really fantastic programs and tools (ZFS), but have a severe problem with making a decent operating system. I have all this power, but I cannot use it.
OH, about the gnu utilities, I want those in any OS I use.
When I say Solaris I kinda mean OpenSolaris, I don't need to experience regular Solaris anymore. I used reg. Solaris as both a user and admin in different environments. I experience 'can't do this' 'doesn't have that' 'not enabled by default' 'have to install manually'
I suppose I'll be giving OpenSolaris another shot again when Jaunty comes out.
Posted by Mike on April 02, 2009 at 05:02 PM EDT #
I don't know why you think the Solaris kernel is slow. We have a wide variety of world record benchmarks on Sparc and Intel/AMD hardware.
http://www.sun.com/benchmarks/software/solaris.xml
Solaris is much more robust and scalable (up to 256 processors and 1 TB of RAM) than the Linux kernel.
We also run on over 1000 platforms.
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/
OpenSolaris has even more platforms that Solaris 10 because of the improved variety of Drivers.
Posted by Jim Laurent on April 02, 2009 at 05:37 PM EDT #
As a person who is 100% microsoft free at home and work, I'm not the best resource to help you with this problem. The forums or email lists at the Virtual Box community site, however should be able to help you.
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