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20061120 Monday November 20, 2006
iTunes vs Musicmatch Jukebox Computers

itunesmusicmatchA while back I blogged about incompatibilities between iTunes and Yahoo's Musicmatch Jukebox.  That issue is still unresolved, but there were some comments about which interface is better.  In the spirit of fair play, I decided to give iTunes a try.  Note that I an not comparing the online music stores, just the players.


Summary: iTunes has more player options, but Musicmatch is a better ripper and organizer.  Musicmatch still wins, in my opinion.

Many features are available with both players and comparing those features is not really valuable, so I'll try to just focus on the differences.  I'm not claiming to be an expert with either program so if you know how to do something that I don't, let me know.


iTunes Pros:

  • Lots of statistics.  iTunes keeps track of how often songs are played and can use that information to generate a playlist.  It's also easier to add your own personal ratings with iTunes since you can also do so via your iPod.

  • Better "between song" features.  iTunes realizes that some songs need to be played right after other songs with no gaps.  It also has the cross fader feature that blends songs together like a DJ.

  • "Endless" random play.  iTunes' "Party Shuffle" is slightly better the MM's "auto DJ" since it's open ended.  MM requires that you enter a total time and then generates a fixed playlist.

  • iTunes' search is better and faster.  MM is a little clunky.

iTunes Cons:

  • Doesn't play all mp3 files well!  This surprised me.  I have some older mp3s, ripped in the old days, and when iTunes plays them there is digital static for the first few seconds.  It's very annoying.

Musicmatch Pros:

  • Tagging and super tagging.  Musicmatch absolutely blows away iTunes in this area.  iTunes only allows you to edit one song at a time.  iTunes can edit more than file at a time, but in a very limited fashion [see comments].  Musicmatch can edit multiple songs at one time, use one song to tag other songs, tag files based on the filename, and even rename the files based on the tags.  But the best feature is access to the online database of tags, and album art, that allow you to tag an entire album based on some search criteria.

  • Mini player is better.  It's more mini.

  • Fast ripping.  Very fast.

Musicmatch Cons:

  • Can't update my iPod.  'nuff said.

It seems to me that iTunes is really geared towards Apple's iTunes store and playing music that has already been tagged and downloaded.  Musicmatch, while it also has a large online music store (Yahoo Music now), was written for the old school crowd (like me), who rip their own CDs and like to manage the meta data themselves.

For me, may of iTunes' "pros" aren't as important to me, so I'd like to stick with Musicmatch.  Now only if someone would fix this incompatibility problem.

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You can edit multiple items in iTunes by shift-clicking or control-clicking (option-clicking for Mac users), and then doing File->Information. You can, for example, select all tracks in an album and correct a spelling error in the album title at once.

Posted by Pete on November 20, 2006 at 01:03 PM PST #

I found that I still need to use both since iTunes 7.0.2 can't seem to play any songs on my 2 Windows systems without pops and clicks in the sound output. Recent problem since upgrading, not an issue on the Mac... Musicmatch doesn't seem to be getting any upgrades lately, just wondering if Yahoo is really planning to keep it alive for much longer... WinAmp is still a good player but its mp3 management tools are pretty weak, just playlists in the base version.

Posted by VHF on November 20, 2006 at 02:45 PM PST #

I am a MusicMatch lifetime subscriber from way, way back. Luckily, through all the mergers and acquisitions, they are still honoring my subscription. However, I have recently started usign Media Monkey, and for most uses, find is far superior. The only thing I like better in MusicMatch is that MuMa uses Gracenote for track lookup, which seems to get superior results to MeMo.

Posted by Brian Utterback on November 21, 2006 at 09:58 AM PST #

To Pete:

Thanks for the info. I tried that but it only "sort of" worked. Yes, it allowed me to select multiple songs and then displayed the editing window. However, not all of the fields were filled in using the data from the songs. There was also no way of selecting one song from the list to use as a "master".

Point: Still Musicmatch

Posted by Kevin on November 21, 2006 at 10:52 AM PST #

I am also "Old School" and I also use Musicmatch Jukebox, but the everytime a new version comes out..something always goes wrong. The support is no longer there. I can never seem to find anyone that can help me with Musicmatch. I am really disappointed, cause I have used Musicmatch for many many years and I really dont know which Player to use now.I wish they (Yahoo) would do something about this problem. Not having Support for your product is simply wrong. I paid for all versions and have no where to go for help. I have tried ITunes and its not the same.. Any Advice?

Posted by Sunqueen on March 06, 2007 at 09:56 PM PST #

I too am old school and have used MM for years but have become fed up with some of MM's quirks like "FREEZING MY COMPUTER" periodically. I love the player. It's intuitive to use, the best jukebox for filing and organizing songs I have found, it rips songs lightning fast most of the time (although every once in a while it will go slow for no apparent reason), and the tagging features are great. Unfortunately it resembles spyware in some aspects which is horrible for a piece of licensed software. I shouldn't have to periodically check my MSConfig Startup folder to see if its processes wormed their way back in there. If you accidentally click on the tab to get internet info there is no going back. It will sit there and hang for a minute or so no matter how hard you try to kill it. It's like they're saying "Hah, I've got you now, you WILL see my paid content. There is no escape!!!" I've always known MM was a memory hog but I thought upgrading to a gig of memory would help fix this. It helped somewhat but it seems that the more you have the more it just grabs. I didn't just post this just to gripe about MM though. I also have been wondering if Yahoo really plans on continuing to upgrade/support it seeing as how they already have there own Yahoo Jukebox. Maybe they are going to try to combine the best features of each into one player, but it has been around 3 years since they bought MM and I haven't heard a thing about it. I have been tossing around the idea of switching to ITunes but am a little apprehensive that it may have the same sort of "Big Brother" characteristics such as communicating back and forth to the internet constantly and trying to put itself into the computer startup folder. Does anyone have any insight on what will happen in the future with MM or if ITunes is a worthy candidate as a replacement?

Posted by Chris Guarente on March 25, 2007 at 06:28 AM PDT #

I have MusicMatch 10.00.4015c. It keeps asking me to upgrade, but I'm afraid if I click yes to upgrade, I'll end up in Yahoo hell. I really like MusicMatch, especially the "On Demand" feature. Yahoo Music doesn't say anything about "on demand" capabilities. Is Yahoo screwed up? Can I upgrade my Music Match. Is Yahoo Music Unlimited different. I have tried Itunes; nice catalog, but other than that, it sucks; no music on demand. Any suggestions?

Posted by Steve M on April 08, 2007 at 03:52 PM PDT #

New Yahoo "Jokebox" is the lamest!!!You speak the truth. I tried the new Yahoo Jukebox and it totally sucks air. The ability to tag or supertag does not exist. You cannot edit a playlist at all unless it is saved in you music library. They do not offer ANY artwork in their Gracenote database which is far inferior to the old MusicMatch database. And even worst ,they don't even allow you import your own artwork if you scan it or decide to edit.How much work would it take them to allow imported art files ??? They were so greedy to copy i-Tunes, that they took i-tunes weakest features and totally ignored what had made MUSICMatch such a great organizing tool. Yahoo will not see me "upgrade" to this junkbox. I pray my old MM 10Plus will still function. Yahoo jukebox is the worst. Don't upgrade. LET them know you demand your tagging,editing, and artwork capabilities. I contacted YAHOO's customer service team and let them know how much I disliked the new "Jokebox" . My grandfather used to say,"Please don't pee down my back, and then tell me that it's raining".

Posted by Michael Dahnke on July 08, 2007 at 12:46 PM PDT #

Im looking for a Jukebox now that we lost Musicmatch( I didnt like yahoo Jukebox) Any recomendations??

Posted by Beto on September 20, 2007 at 10:05 PM PDT #

I'm very late in this but totally agree with the criticism of yahoo. It will not play my WAV files ripped in Musicmatch. It will record in wav format and won't play the song. It is totally unstable. an omega version at the moment.

"They" are progressively dismantling Musicmatch services.
I still use it to rip songs but they now come in labelled track 1,2 etc. I then edit the track, put in album and singer info. I then do a lookup and select from the range of suggested titles. It works most times. Last week it used to pull up the album art but its stopped doing that. It reminds me of "mad max' or 'Waterworld"; it's decaying. The bad thing is that I can't find another ripper that does it the same way as muma and recognises the format of the songs I've already ripped.

Posted by dave on November 13, 2007 at 02:34 AM PST #

My fiancee & I joined MusicMatch this morning, April 28, 2008. It took his credit card & charged him 50 some dollars for MusicMatch. There was nowhere else to go from there, so we X'd out & figured the icon would appear on his screen after that. Well, NOTHING! Nothing in his e-mail about it, NOTHING! I call Yahoo support music center, at:1-800-318-0631 & the guy tells me that there is no longer a MusicMatch. Why in the hell are they still advertising it & stealing people's money? Shouldn't there be something we can do about this? Renee in Cumberland, Maryland

Posted by Renee on April 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM PDT #

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