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20051205 Monday December 05, 2005

"Report on the Use of Safety Cameras"

The Department of Justice recently released the working group on speed cameras' Report on the Use of Safety Cameras. The report examines "safety cameras" (nice bit of double-speak there) in the context of the proposed move to 'out-source' their operation from the Garda Síochána to the private sector (it's silly to have trained police operating cameras).

More paranoid motorists have long been cynical of some of the motivations behind speed limit enforcement. This report, in plain english, confirms the views of the cynics. Some initial highlights:

Here are the interesting, nay, nonsensical parts. The report recomends:

What a joke. You have to wonder if there's anyone with half a clue in the DoT. There must be clever and studied people there, yet no one appears capable of realising that formulating road safety policy mostly along the accepted "politically correct" dogma of "Speed baaad" has gotten us relatively nowhere (the other dogma, the more Irish problem of drink-driving, on the other hand has had an effect).

1. Setting speed limits according to the 85th percentile is common practice around the world. It has some serious problems. E.g. the 15% percentile is rather arbitrary. The bulk of the 15% of drivers above the limit are not per se the ones who cause accidents, particularly those in the 85th to 90th percentiles, who are likely quite competent. Further speed limits and accident rates do not strongly correlate. The main goal of 85th percentile limits are simply to allow majority of motorists to be in compliance (or maybe, to still leave a significant number out of compliance).

PS: FWEIW, I actually think speed limits are too high in many cases, particularly in suburban settings (50km/h here in Ireland). 20% of fatalities occur on local roads, according to this very report. It is in these settings where lower speeds could have the most dramatic effects on RTA fatality rates. Limits in suburban/local settings should be 30km/h IMHO, as on the continent.

Limits on safe roads like the motorway should, IMHO, be increased - significantly. To 160km/h at a minimum, preferably 200km/h. Remember, it's a limit, not a mandatory speed, the vast bulk of drivers will settle on what they consider to be a safe speed according to the 85th percentile rule. Only training and road awareness can affect safety after this. Penalising competent drivers for exceeding an arbitrarily low limit on quite safe roads is insane. Even worse, the absolutism of our system mean that you can face a greater penalty for exceeding a limit on a motorway than a proportionally greater infringement on a local road (the latter class being where excess speed is proportionally the more dangerous), e.g exceeding the 120km/h motorway limit by 65km/h (55%) versus exceeding the local road 50km/h limit by 30km/h (60%). The former can land you in court IIRC.

Enough ranting though.

( Dec 05 2005, 11:29:22 AM GMT ) Permalink Comments [2]

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The article seems to confirm my worst suspicions! And if that was not enough: yesterday, YES ON CHRISTMAS DAY !!! we were driving along the M50 on the way to friends in Greystones. Traffic was light. weather sunny and the road dry. Somewhere past the Tallaght exit the M50 has a 100 km/h limit (a leftover from when it was under construction and coming to an end at what now is the Dundrum exit?). Where exactly this limit is lifted is not clear, but somwhere near the Dun Laoghaire exit ..... yes, there were the intrepid Gardai on a viaduct with a hairdryer! They were probably catching loads of motorists, NONE OF WHOM WERE IN ANY WAY ENDANGERING ROAD SAFETY!! Need I say more? The cynical lies of our government and the knee-jerk pupper recactions of the National Road Safety Council (what a bunch of effete truth twisters!) have to be made public! Thanks for your contributions.

Posted by Rudy Jakma on December 26, 2005 at 02:13 PM GMT #

In France, they advertise the speed camera exactly 300m before you get to them. These are genuine safety cameras as they are only placed in "black spots" as we would call them, i.e.: danger zones. The message is clear "Pour votre securite".

The only time I saw any cops with cameras were at the entrance to villages, whereby if you were speeding, you were potenially a danger to others.

Ireland uses speed cameras for the exact opposite reasons, they are not in any way to save lives, in fact, they achieve the exact opposite, as everyone jams their brakes coming up to them.

Posted by Conor Wynne on July 26, 2009 at 09:18 PM IST #

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