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20061122 Wednesday November 22, 2006

The Curse Of The Curse Of Monkey Island

I don't know whether to chalk this one up to senility or bad user interface design in the game. Bad user interface design in a LucasArts game! What am I saying!

Let me back up, and tell you the whole story. Bear with me. It'll take a while.

For all-the-family-together quality time, for the last couple of years, we've occasionally been playing various computer adventure games. No doubt, thirty or forty years ago, we'd have all been huddled around some board game together, but nowadays technology has taken over.

The latest game was one from LucasArts called The Curse of Monkey Island.

This game is quite old (as computer games go) and requires you to run in 256 colors at 640x480 resolution, it won't "just work" on our Windows Xp box. So we have an old Windows 98 machine for programs such as this.

I started working from home a few months ago, and needed that Windows 98 machine in the office, so that it could run an old HP LaserJet 1100 printer. I don't have drivers for that printer for Windows Xp. At that time, we stopped playing the Curse game. We were about three quarters of the way through.

Now that I have the new HP Laserjet printer in my home office, the Windows 98 machine is freed up, moved to a more accessible spot, and we resumed playing the game. The problem was, I'd forgotten exactly where we were at, and what we'd been doing before that, to get there.

For those adventure gaming connoisseurs who might be able to follow along with the next part, we're playing the Mega-Monkey version, and are working through part IV: "The bartender, the thieves, his aunt, and her lover". For the rest of you, try to keep up.

We are in the hotel and we are trying to give the man behind the bar, a drink to cure his hangover. One of the ingredients is the hair of the dog that bit you, so we need to get the dog in the graveyard to bit us. So using one of the numerous walkthrough for the game, we know that we need to feed the dog the biscuit that contains the maggots.

I looked in our inventory and there appeared to be nothing there. Certainly no maggoty biscuit was visible. Arrgh! What do we do? Our last saved game that showed a maggoty biscuit in the inventory was way back in part II ("the curse gets worst").

So I decided to load that game and work my way through everything that needed to be done up to where we were in the last saved game. I mean everything. For anybody who's played the game, they'll know that one of it's small failings is that painfully long sea battle sequence where you have to trade rhyming insults with all the other pirates. Luckily, I found another walkthrough with all the pairs of insults, which reduced the pain somewhat.

After a couple of hours, we were back where we'd started. I looked in the inventory. It was almost empty! The maggoty biscuit was gone!

I then noticed that the stupid arrow shaped hinges on the inventory chest allowed you to scroll left and right in the inventory. That wasn't obvious, especially as the recipe book in the game uses large red arrows as you hover over its left and right edges, to indicate you need to click here to turn the page in that direction.. Consistency would have been a nice thing. There was also nothing on this in the beautiful full color guide that came with the game. Grrr!

Don't get me wrong. I love these games from LucasArts. They are easy to get into and understand. The humor is excellent. You can't die, so that's a plus. All in all, a great gaming experience.

Except for this one small thing.

We've now finished that game, and have started in on Grim Fandango. Yes I know. Another blast from the past. But these games are perfect fun. We don't need the latest 3D technologies. We just want to be entertained.

Having said that, I am getting a little fedup walking Manny around everywhere in the Land of the Dead, and wish that the UI was similar to Curse (where you just click once to move to a new location), but I'll get over it with enough practice.

Recommendations for other similar games that you've enjoyed would be great.

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( Nov 22 2006, 10:52:02 AM PST ) [Listen] Permalink Comments [18]

Comments:

You should give a try to scummvm to play these old games on newer OSes...

Posted by glandium on November 22, 2006 at 11:34 AM PST #

You know of course that you can play most of these old games in a modern OS with scummvm... And that includes linux :D
Other games I can recomend are The Broken Sword series (I and II. Never played III). Less humourous, but still fun (not that it's a serious game. There is still room for a good laugh in broken sword, but I prefer the humour in the monkey island series).

Posted by Luis Gomes on November 22, 2006 at 11:36 AM PST #

Grim Fandango is excellent, so put up with Manny.

Other fun "family" adventure games are the Gobliiins series. You usually have two or three different goblins characters, each with their own abilities, and they all need to work together to solve puzzles. You can't die and you can't "break the puzzle." The goblins are also cute and funny.

If you're into playing "old but really good games" then I recommend playing the original X-Com (aka "UFO" in the UK). It's not an adventure game but rather a single player squad combat game. However, it's turn-based, so no fast fingers required. Don't play any of the sequels, except *maybe* X-Com 3.

Posted by Kevin on November 22, 2006 at 11:44 AM PST #

You can't play Grim with ScummVM, though. They have a port for the Grim Fandango / Escape From Monkey Island engine (which is called 'grime') in their SVN (repository 'residual'), but it's nowhere near complete, I'm not sure if it even works at all with EFMI. It does work with Grim but I'm not sure if you can complete the game with it. I never found any other adventure games I liked as much as the LucasArts ones. Of the LucasArts ones, my favourite was Grim Fandango, then Sam 'n' Max Hit The Road, then Monkey Island 1 - 2, with all the other ones with a modern engine (basically since Monkey 1 - anything where you actually get a highlight on mouse over, rather than having to click on every damn pixel of a screen to find the objects) coming in in a bunch after those. Grim Fandango is a bloody brilliant game and you'll love every minute of it.

Posted by AdamW on November 22, 2006 at 11:45 AM PST #

Given the previous comments, you already know that you could have played Monkey3 with ScummVM. I have to recommand you the 2 firsts monkey island. They are really great, even with the old "pixel fashion" graphics. And they are funnier than the one you have played. Mostly because the fantastic Ron Gilbert was involved in the making of them. Note also that the second one is the best of all the monkeys imho. And when you'll be done with theses games, you can start playing Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, and Indiana Jones And The Fate Of Atlantis. I've played thoses on a regular basis over the time, and my best memories out of a game come from them. Maybe because I was 6 or 7 when I played indy3 for the first time... Ahh nostalgia.

Posted by yoplait on November 22, 2006 at 12:45 PM PST #

As Kevin said, you can play Monkey Island on ScummVM on linux, it worked fine for me :) Very nice game, i've finished I, II, III and 4 :) I also hated the sword fighting part, the time machine part of the III and the monkey fight of the 4..

Posted by Thiago M. Sayao on November 22, 2006 at 12:47 PM PST #

I forgot to tell you that if you like abandonware, Dune (not Dune2, Dune alone ^^) is a fscking wonderful game. I remember that even my mum was playing that game for hours. It is a mix of adventure, strategy and management based on the universe of Frank herbert. It is a DOS game but it works well on WindowsXP.

Posted by yoplait on November 22, 2006 at 12:50 PM PST #

My comment was marked as spam and will not be displayed. Why is that?
Anyway, to summarize my last post, these are my favourite games, other than Monkey Island:
1. Day of the Tentacle
2. Simon the Sorcerer 1 and 2
3. Sam 'n' Max Hit the Road
They all run under ScummVM.

Posted by Johan on November 22, 2006 at 01:01 PM PST #

Besides the already mentioned "Day of the Tentacle", I would suggest: 1) the "King Quest" adventures, specially VII 2) Star Trek: A Final Unity 3) (maybe) The Dig (never managed to finish this one without walkthrough) Also good are the "Leisure Suit Larry" series, specially V, VI and VII, but I guess those are not suited for family quality time ;)

Posted by Duarte Loreto on November 22, 2006 at 01:37 PM PST #

Wow! Thanks everyone.

I'll definitely check out the ScummVM engine. I've got Monkey I and II. I think they were included for free with "Escape from Monkey Island" (all of which are on our "to do" list). I've noted all the other great recommendations.

Johan, the Roller software has some "smarts" in it, such that if there is more than a certain number of links, it rejects it as spam. Thanks for the three links you managed to sneak through. 8-)

Posted by Rich Burridge on November 22, 2006 at 01:41 PM PST #

One adventure game that I think is very under-rated is The Neverhood. It was created using claymation (much like Wallace and Grommit or Chicken Run), had a great sense of humour and had some tricky puzzles which made it rewarding to play. Unlike Monkey Island you could die in the game, albeit only in one (very well signposted) location.

Posted by Ian on November 22, 2006 at 01:58 PM PST #

If you want another scummvm game similar to monkey island try "Flight of The Amazon Queen", It's just like Indianna Jones but in game form... having said that you might want to try Indiana Jones the game. Its also just like Indianna jones, only in game form :)

Posted by Alex Mac on November 22, 2006 at 02:41 PM PST #

In addition to ScummVM, you might also try the dosbox dos emulator, which runs on GNU/Linux and other platforms. It plays almost all old DOS games just fine. Also, I second the recommendation for the King's Quest series, but personally, I recommend V and VI. Find the CD version with full voice and music, if you can.

Posted by Anonymous on November 22, 2006 at 04:20 PM PST #

Classics...

For Lucasfilm games, I'd recommend that you use scummvm as someone else mentioned above. You can get the games to run on almost any platform then. I enjoyed playing "Full throttle" purely for the attitude of the lead character (it's also scumm based). If you like science fiction style games, check out "beneath a steel sky" which is also summ based.

If you enjoy story in games, I'd reccommend the Gabriel Knight series. They really left an impression on me.

I also enjoyed most of the older Sierra classics (the quest series - Police quest, Space quest, Heroes quest etc.). VMs exist for the AGI and SCI formats too.

Finally, if you are a retrogaming fan who enjoys classics, I'd very much reccommend that you check out HOTU.

Enjoy. :)

Posted by Noufal on November 22, 2006 at 09:19 PM PST #

Somebody already mentioned "Star Trek: A Final Unity", but I'd actually first recommend the older Star Trek adventure games: "25th Anniversary", and "Judgment Rites". It helps if you are a Trek fan, though it is not required as these were very interesting games on their own (I was not a Trek fan when I first played them. I also played them when I was pretty young). The CD versions seem to run fine in Dosbox, though my 10+ diskette version does not..

Posted by Chris Irwin on November 23, 2006 at 08:45 AM PST #

And once you start to download the the scummVM from [url]http://www.scummvm.org[/url] you should be sure to get Beneath a Steel Sky, which is available for download on the scummvm site. It's in the Extras section of the download page, almost in the bottom of the page. Be sure to get 67MB CD version. Beneath a Steel Sky is nowadays released as freeware and it's the greatest sci-fi adventure ever. It's set in Australia and polluted cities where poor people live on the top of the rusted city, and the lowest level and freshest air is limited only to the more well off. The games background's and characters were inspired or drawn by the famous comics artist Dave Gibbons.

Posted by kiwi on November 23, 2006 at 05:40 PM PST #

Just play the games on SCUMM VM. Personally, I thought the interface was beautiful and I was only eight when I played it.

Posted by Kroms on November 25, 2006 at 08:02 AM PST #

My favourite game in the genre, which is also by LucasArts, is "Day of the Tentacle". The graphics are beautiful, the characters are funny, and the story is just awesome. I also find "Simon the Sorcerer" 1 and 2 to be very entertaining and humoristic games, a little bit similar to Monkey Island 1 and 2. I recently started playing "Sam 'n' Max Hit the Road", and it looks very promising. All of the above mentioned games run perfectly under ScummVM, so you can run them under your favourite operating system :)

Posted by Johan on February 01, 2007 at 03:11 PM PST #

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