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I think Tim O'Reilly has it wrong. His blogger's code of conduct, while well intentioned, is unworkable. What the web needs is a reputation system. And by reputation I mean the social evaluation of a person, group or entity. The Social Evaluation - that's the important bit.

Here's how it would work. If you want to be taken seriously, people need to know who you are; something like OpenID would be adequate for this. Strictly it doesn't really provide anyone with any level of trust that you are who you say you are - but that's OK; just knowing that you're the same entity that left comments on other sites, or contributed to a wikipedia article is enough. Next we need a way of recording a reputation against OpenIDs - people should be able to very simply score you on your level of insight, wit, general behavior, etc. on the web - this has been solved locally for ebay and slashdot; what we now need is some way to federate your reputation globally.

The need for anonymity can't be pushed aside in this system; there are very good reasons for allowing anonymity. Flaming people or competing products, pumping up your own views, etc. are not good uses of anonymity and unfortunately cast the use of Anonymity in a bad light. Like I said there are good reasons for anonymity to be maintained for those who really need it -  I live in a country and work for an organization where I hope I'll never need to hide my opinion. But there are many circumstances where anonymity is required,

The idea of web-reputation is anything but new - ebay, slashdot, to name a few have been using it successfully for years to provide user-moderation; what's missing is some convenient standards for federating or compositing reputation. A couple of sites have been trying to just that - for example here's my Opinity page. Opinity is a service that allows me to have some control over my on line reputation and does some degree of reputation compositing; but it isn't perfect; and it isn't really widely enough used to be of much practical use (today).

Here's my prediction - as the web moves inevitably towards adopting user-centric identity; reputation (and federated reputation) won't be far behind.

What do you think ?

 

Comments:

Hi Rich, you are blogging about an interesting issue. Your ideas look nice, too - at first. Nevertheless I wonder if this not too dangerous. Just think about hackers and social engeneering or hacking. The more other people know about you, the more this information might be abused. Aren't you afraid that the facts at Opinity about you could be abused? Am I too paranoid? If we would have OpenIDs then the problem might be a little bit lower. Should service providers force their users to use OpenIDs? The Social Evaluation (as you call it) could also mean to pillory innocent people. There are known cases already and this is something that will happen more and more in the future. And we know how difficult it is to remove untruths.

Posted by Klaus Stake on April 10, 2007 at 11:10 PM PDT #

Another site where there is a piece of "reputation" being developed socially is Linkedin with their recommendations. I certainly don't see a central repository for reputation emerging so the federation of the repositories that exist is an interesting idea.

Posted by Kevin Schmidt on April 11, 2007 at 09:49 AM PDT #

Klaus, it's already shockingly simple to find out a lot about someone - just using a browser (and maybe a few phone calls); it's even easier to sift through people's trash. We already have a rampant identity theft problem; at least in the US. That, I think is orthogonal to a system of reputation I'm outlining. That system doesn't attempt to make the Id theft problem go away and I don't think it would make it any worse. Your second point is important - for many people - Identity systems (eg. National Identity systems) are a scary thought - they've been use for some pretty horrible things in the past. I think the answer to that is de-centralization or user-empowerment - we should have more (complete) control over who we share our identity with and how much we want to share. Finally - you are right - any technology or system will be abused but if you make it important enough for enough people then I think natural correction will take place.

Posted by Rich Sharples on April 11, 2007 at 02:05 PM PDT #

In reply to Kevin. There's another social networking site nexto to Linkedin, it's name is Xing: http://www.xing.com/

Posted by Klaus Stake on April 11, 2007 at 11:44 PM PDT #

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