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Kanigix - A Sparc DVD

So I got the Nevada b35 image for Sparc. I really should burn it first and make sure my new DVD drives work, but I really, really want a Kanigix DVD.

I've mounted the ISO:

# lofiadm -a /isos/sparc/images/solarisdvd.iso /dev/lofi/1
# prtvtoc /dev/lofi/1
* /dev/lofi/1 (volume "lofi") partition map
*
* Dimensions:
*     512 bytes/sector
*     600 sectors/track
*       1 tracks/cylinder
*     600 sectors/cylinder
*   10961 cylinders
*   10961 accessible cylinders
*
* Flags:
*   1: unmountable
*  10: read-only
*
*                          First     Sector    Last
* Partition  Tag  Flags    Sector     Count    Sector  Mount Directory
       0      0    01          0   6576600   6576599
# mount -F hsfs -o ro /dev/lofi/1 /isos/mnt/sparc
# ls -la /isos/mnt/sparc
total 934
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     sys         2048 Mar  6 15:32 .
drwxr-xr-x   3 tdh      staff        512 Mar 17 16:35 ..
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          93 Feb 18 01:27 .cdtoc
drwxr-xr-x   5 root     root        2048 Mar  6 15:32 .install
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root          33 Mar  6 15:30 .install_config -> ./Solaris_11/Misc/.install_config
-r--r--r--   1 root     root         472 Mar  2 17:33 .slicemapfile
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          17 Mar  2 17:33 .volume.inf
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          19 Mar  6 14:23 .volume.inf.2
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          19 Mar  6 14:23 .volume.inf.3
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          19 Mar  6 14:24 .volume.inf.4
-r--r--r--   1 root     root        6851 Mar  2 17:33 Copyright
-r--r--r--   1 root     root      459760 Mar  2 17:33 JDS-THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME
drwxr-xr-x   8 root     root        2048 Mar  6 15:32 Solaris_11
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root         257 Mar  6 14:24 installer

The first question, is what is on the slices? I tried to use prtvtoc to see that, but it was a wash. Do I have to create a DVD? No, not yet, lets check the contents of the DVD:

# cat /isos/mnt/sparc/.slicemapfile


#
# @(#) sparc.dot.slicemapfile 1.13@(#)
#

#
#
# a slice map file for install CD boot slices - maps platform (or not)
# or karch to an install boot slice.
#
# entries are one of:
# x ""  <`uname -i`>            exclude platform (must preceed "m" entries)
#                               used if the platform is not really in a karch
# p  <`uname -i`>        platform token entry (must preceed "m" entries)
# m  <`uname -m`>        karch entry
#

m       2       sun4c
m       3       sun4m
m       4       sun4d
m       5       sun4u
m       5       sun4us
m       6       sun4v

So, I already know that grub is not being used and I need to pull out slice information to get this to work. But unlike the x86 case, I've got a lot of relevant literature to fall back on.

One thing which might save me are some modifications to mkisofs. Look in these newsgoup articles for comp.unix.solaris:

I'd really love to pull the slice information off the ISO and not burn a copy.

And google is great. So, here is Jumpstart server from ISO’s. Lets see if we can get it to work. That process only does slice 0 and we want the ones for the different architectures, so on to Cyril Plisko's sextract v0.2.

Well, it turns out that sextract is not large file aware. I.e., I'm sure it works okay on CDs, but not DVDs. I hate extending other people's code - especially if I've never worked with them before.

The first 512 bytes of the ISO have all of the information I need. I need to think about other ways to pull this apart. Hmm, you know, I could just suck down the first b35 CD. It has all of the information I need. Remember, the DVD is just a cat of the 4-5 CDs.

Okay, that worked. One thing that doesn't come across is there is a 30 minute gap between each sentance above and a couple of hours between paragraphs. And I have no clue if this will work.

ultralord:> ~/sextract-0.2/sextract -1 solaris_1.iso

Time spent in user mode   (CPU seconds) : 0.00s
Time spent in kernel mode (CPU seconds) : 15.32s
Total time                              : 2:16.63s
CPU utilisation (percentage)            : 11.2%
ultralord:> ~/sextract-0.2/sextract -2 solaris_1.iso

ultralord:> ls -la
total 8904282
drwxr-xr-x   2 tdh      staff        512 Mar 17 22:30 .
drwxr-xr-x   3 tdh      staff        512 Mar 17 15:58 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    459407360 Mar 17 22:30 s1
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    1310720 Mar 17 22:30 s2
-rwxr-xr-x   1 tdh      staff    728760320 Mar 17 22:20 solaris_1.iso
-rwxr-xr-x   1 tdh      staff    3367239680 Mar 17 16:12 solarisdvd.iso
ultralord:> ~/sextract-0.2/sextract -3 solaris_1.iso

ultralord:> ~/sextract-0.2/sextract -4 solaris_1.iso

ultralord:> ~/sextract-0.2/sextract -5 solaris_1.iso

ultralord:> ~/sextract-0.2/sextract -6 solaris_1.iso

ultralord:> ls -la
total 8914586
drwxr-xr-x   2 tdh      staff        512 Mar 17 22:31 .
drwxr-xr-x   3 tdh      staff        512 Mar 17 15:58 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    459407360 Mar 17 22:30 s1
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    1310720 Mar 17 22:30 s2
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    1310720 Mar 17 22:30 s3
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    1310720 Mar 17 22:30 s4
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    1310720 Mar 17 22:30 s5
-rw-r--r--   1 tdh      staff    1310720 Mar 17 22:31 s6
-rwxr-xr-x   1 tdh      staff    728760320 Mar 17 22:20 solaris_1.iso
-rwxr-xr-x   1 tdh      staff    3367239680 Mar 17 16:12 solarisdvd.iso

Lets build up the work area:

[tdh@ultralord ~]> sudo su -
Sun Microsystems Inc.   SunOS 5.10      Generic January 2005
# cd /isos/mnt/sparc
#
# find . -depth -print | cpio -pudm /export/home/tdh/kanigix

Lets burn that puppy!

# mkisofs -R -d -L -l -r -D -U -sparc-boot s1,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6 -o kanigix_sp.iso
# /export/home/tdh/kanigix
mkisofs: The option '-L' is reserved by POSIX.1-2001.
mkisofs: The option '-L' means 'follow all symbolic links'.
mkisofs: Mkisofs-2.02 will introduce POSIX semantics for '-L'.
mkisofs: Use -allow-leading-dots in future to get old mkisofs behavior.
Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660.
...Warnings about name translations...
  2.79% done, estimate finish Fri Mar 17 23:33:00 2006
  3.04% done, estimate finish Fri Mar 17 23:33:42 2006
...
 87.95% done, estimate finish Fri Mar 17 23:39:41 2006
 88.20% done, estimate finish Fri Mar 17 23:39:41 2006
Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 13599688
Total directory bytes: 107595776
Path table size(bytes): 777940
Total extents including sparc boot = 1972640
Max brk space used 7c28000
1972790 extents written (3853 MB)
# ls -la *iso
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root     4040273920 Mar 17 23:40 kanigix_sp.iso
-rwxr-xr-x   1 tdh      staff    3367239680 Mar 17 16:12 solarisdvd.iso
# cdrw -d /cdrom/cdrom -i kanigix_sp.iso
Cannot find device /cdrom/cdrom.
No CD writers found or no media in the drive.
# cdrw -d /dev/rdsk/c0t2d0  -i kanigix_sp.iso
Cannot find device /dev/rdsk/c0t2d0.
No CD writers found or no media in the drive.
# cdrw -d /dev/rdsk/c0t2d0 -i kanigix_sp.iso
Cannot find device /dev/rdsk/c0t2d0.
No CD writers found or no media in the drive.
# cdrw -i kanigix_sp.iso
Looking for CD devices...
Initializing device...done.
Preparing to write DVD
Writing track 1....done.                                                                                               
Finalizing (Can take several minutes)...done.
ultralord:> df | grep cdrom
/cdrom/cdrom/s6    (/vol/dev/dsk/c0t2d0/cdrom/s6):      58 blocks     7676 files
/cdrom/cdrom/s5    (/vol/dev/dsk/c0t2d0/cdrom/s5):      58 blocks     7676 files
/cdrom/cdrom/s4    (/vol/dev/dsk/c0t2d0/cdrom/s4):      58 blocks     7676 files
/cdrom/cdrom/s3    (/vol/dev/dsk/c0t2d0/cdrom/s3):      58 blocks     7676 files
/cdrom/cdrom/s2    (/vol/dev/dsk/c0t2d0/cdrom/s2):      58 blocks     7676 files
/cdrom/cdrom/s1    (/vol/dev/dsk/c0t2d0/cdrom/s1):   42264 blocks   194343 files
/cdrom/cdrom/s0    (/vol/dev/dsk/c0t2d0/cdrom/s0):       0 blocks        0 files

I think this is fragged. Well, I did read an entry which said I would see the slices. Time to reboot. And I'm glad to be at least partly, if not fully, wrong!

ok boot cdrom
Resetting ...


Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI (UltraSPARC-IIi 333MHz), No Keyboard
OpenBoot 3.31, 512 MB (60 ns) memory installed, Serial #10934813.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:a6:da:1d, Host ID: 80a6da1d.



Rebooting with command: boot cdrom
Boot device: /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ide@3/cdrom@2,0:f  File and args:
SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_35 64-bit
Copyright 1983-2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.

Well at least sandman can boot off of it! The install is going fine as well.


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The Ramones - We're A Happy Family

So, I wasn't that big of The Ramones fan growing up - just a tad too young and they didn't do MTV very well. I did buy Loud, Fast Ramones: Their Toughest Hits on a lark for my iPod Nano.

So I'm zoning out to We're A Happy Family:

"We're A Happy Family"

We're a happy family
We're a happy family
We're a happy family
Me mom and daddy

Siting here in Queens
Eating refried beans
We're in all the magazines
Gulpin' down thorazines

We ain't got no friends
Our troubles never end
No Christmas cards to send
Daddy likes men

Daddy's telling lies
Baby's eating flies
Mommy's on pills
Baby's got the chills

I'm friends with the President
I'm friends with the Pope
We're all making a fortune
Selling Daddy's dope

Perhaps it is the ability to stand apart from the times, but the line "Daddy likes men" had to be a bombshell at the time. You still have to be pretty subtle about homosexuality and that must have been considered very socially deviant.


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Blueprint Jumpstart x86 OpenSolaris Grub

The title is to help people searching for this topic area. I found a lot of good resources up in the Sun Blueprints for creating a Jumpstart CD/DVD for both Sparc and x86 systems. However, they are not geared towards the new grub offerings.

There are other blueprints which might apply and I'm sure John Howard will provide an update. But, in the meantime, if you want to create an x86 based Jumpstart CD/DVD and it is a grub based install media, then you can follow the instructions I provided to cooking up Kanigix.

I want to script it up, but for now, the key material comes from Kanigix - An experiment in packaging 5. You might have to scan back in the blog entries to figure out how I did some steps.


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Added DVD drives to my Sparc boxes

I'd like to say I don't want to burn 5 CDs per drop of Nevada, but the reality is that I could mount the ISO images and netboot. No, I want the DVDs such that I can test burning my own Sparc DVD distros. I went ahead and got DVD drives from NewEgg.com.

The Ultra 10 was easy to modify, the only difficulty was attaching the IDE cable. It is a tight fit and I had to apply some light.

The Ultra 5 was much harder. I had to pull the floppy drive out, and then the inner most screw could not be reached by a nornmal screwdriver. I suppose I could have pulled the cage out - but instead I used a small ratchet screwdriver I've had for ages.

So the original CD drive was labled as being made in 1998. It was a good 3/4" longer than the replacement and smoothly rectangular. The replacement didn't want to go in. I checked and both the height and width were acceptable. It just stuck like there was a serious blockage. I was able to easily replace the orginal, so it wasn't some latch I didn't know about. What I had to do was pull up on the newer drive as I inserted it.

Both drives can read a DVD - I'll check installing from them as soon as I construct a Sparc version of Kanigix.


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UPS and their delivery methods

I had a shipment coming in from NewEgg.com and I thought it would be here today. Wrong, it showed up last night:

Track Order
Tracking number    1Z04WF350336XXXXX
Date/Time 	Status 	State 	City
03/16/2006 17:51:00 	DELIVERED[D] 	OK 	TULSA
03/15/2006 18:59:00 	UNLOAD SCAN[I] 	OK 	OKLAHOMA CITY
03/15/2006 14:43:00 	ARRIVAL SCAN[I] 	OK 	OKLAHOMA CITY
03/15/2006 03:51:00 	DEPARTURE SCAN[I] 	TN 	MEMPHIS
03/14/2006 18:51:00 	ORIGIN SCAN[I] 	TN 	MEMPHIS
03/14/2006 16:18:50 	BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED[M] 		

We were all out at soccer practice. The box sat there overnight. We come in the garage on those nights. Here is what it looked like this morning:

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The contents look okay, mainly DVD drives for my Sparc boxes. But if this had been hard drives or expensive, I would be a bit more upset.


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Kanigix - An experiment in packaging 5

So I found a couple of really interesting reads:

I have the last two because I'm getting smarter about what is going on. I read the first and thought, "Wait, what about grub?" Sure enough, I'm pretty sure grub complicates things. Lets look at the root of the Nevada b35 DVD:

# ls -la
total 946
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     sys         4096 Mar  6 15:24 .
drwxr-xr-x   3 root     nobody       512 Mar 16 21:30 ..
-r--r--r--   1 root     root        2048 Mar  6 15:25 .catalog
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          92 Feb 18 01:27 .cdtoc
dr-xr-xr-x   5 root     root        2048 Mar  6 15:24 .install
lr-xr-xr-x   1 root     root          33 Mar  6 15:23 .install_config -> ./Solaris_11/Misc/.install_config
-r--r--r--   1 root     root         419 Mar  2 17:33 .slicemapfile
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          15 Mar  2 17:33 .volume.inf
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          17 Mar  6 14:34 .volume.inf.2
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          17 Mar  6 14:36 .volume.inf.3
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          17 Mar  6 14:37 .volume.inf.4
-r--r--r--   1 root     root        6851 Mar  2 17:33 Copyright
-r--r--r--   1 root     root      459760 Mar  2 17:33 JDS-THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME
dr-xr-xr-x   8 root     root        2048 Mar  6 15:24 Solaris_11
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root     root        2048 Mar  6 15:24 boot
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root     root         257 Mar  6 14:37 installer

And lets now look at the root of a Solaris 10 CD. I think this was the first official release:

[tdh@adept cdrecorder]> ls -la
total 1911
drwxr-xr-x  3 root bin     2048 Jan 22  2005 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root    4096 Mar 15 00:29 ..
-rw-r--r--  2 root bin  1474560 Jan 22  2005 .bootimage
-r--r--r--  1 root bin     2048 Jan 22  2005 .catalog
-r--r--r--  2 root root      87 Jan  6  2005 .cdtoc
-r--r--r--  2 root root    6308 Jan  6  2005 Copyright
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root bin       33 Jan 22  2005 .install_config -> ./Solaris_10/Misc/.install_config
-r--r--r--  2 root root  459760 Jan  6  2005 JDS-THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME
-r--r--r--  2 root root     419 Jan  6  2005 .slicemapfile
drwxr-xr-x  7 root root    2048 Jan 22  2005 Solaris_10
-r--r--r--  2 root root      19 Jan  6  2005 .volume.inf
[tdh@adept cdrecorder]> more .slicemapfile

#
# @(#) i386.dot.slicemapfile 1.4@(#)
#

#
#
# a slice map file for install CD boot slices - maps platform (or not)
# or karch to an install boot slice.
#
# entries are one of:
# x ""  <`uname -i`>            exclude platform (must preceed "m" entries)
#                               used if the platform is not really in a karch
# p  <`uname -i`>        platform token entry (must preceed "m" entries)
# m  <`uname -m`>        karch entry
#

m       0       i86pc

If you've been paying attention, you might realize that adept is my Linux desktop. If I put this CD in wont, my Nevada b35 system, it will consistently panic. I've got a core file to submit a bug later.

Right off the bat, we can see that the Solaris 10 system has a .bootimage file and the Nevada b35 does not. According to Creating a Customized Boot CD/DVD for the Solaris Operating System for x86 Platforms, there should be a .bootimage file. Since there is not, I'm going to skip the experiment of creating one.

I think I've got to use installgrub to make the DVD bootable.

I think my options are to either:

I've done a lot of googling and I should have gone to the source: Making a GRUB bootable CD-ROM. And I can find the stage2_eltorito file here:

# cd /boot/grub/
# ls -la
total 1246
drwxr-xr-x   3 root     sys          512 Mar 16 00:08 .
drwxr-xr-x   5 root     sys          512 Mar 16 00:08 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     sys          512 Mar 15 23:33 bin
-r--r--r--   1 root     sys           10 Mar  3 15:11 default
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         8500 Mar  3 15:11 e2fs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         8228 Mar  3 15:11 fat_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         7508 Mar  3 15:11 ffs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys          496 Mar  3 15:11 install_menu
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         7608 Mar  3 15:11 iso9660_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         8996 Mar  3 15:11 jfs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         1633 Mar 16 00:08 menu.lst
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         7700 Mar  3 15:11 minix_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys       118288 Mar  3 15:11 nbgrub
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys       119312 Mar  3 15:11 pxegrub
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         9940 Mar  3 15:11 reiserfs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         8772 Mar  3 15:11 splash.xpm.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys          512 Mar  3 15:11 stage1
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys       118896 Mar  3 15:11 stage2
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys       118896 Mar  3 15:11 stage2_eltorito
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         7784 Mar  3 15:11 ufs2_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         7380 Mar  3 15:11 ufs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         7124 Mar  3 15:11 vstafs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys         9820 Mar  3 15:11 xfs_stage1_5

Note: From the BigAdmin articles, I want to use Sun supplied files, they have made changes to grub which may not yet be back-ported.

# mkisofs -R -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -R -d -L -l -r -D -U  -boot-info-table -o /isos/kanigix.iso /kanigix
Using ".mkisofsrc"
mkisofs: The option '-L' is reserved by POSIX.1-2001.
mkisofs: The option '-L' means 'follow all symbolic links'.
mkisofs: Mkisofs-2.02 will introduce POSIX semantics for '-L'.
mkisofs: Use -allow-leading-dots in future to get old mkisofs behavior.
Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660.
Using TopicSelectors$Subscri000.class for  /kanigix/Solaris_11/Product/SUNWiqdoc/reloc/usr/demo/imq/jms/TopicSelectors$Subscriber$MultipleListener.class (TopicSelectors$Subscriber.class)
Using MessageHeadersTopic$He000.class for  /kanigix/Solaris_11/Product/SUNWiqdoc/reloc/usr/demo/imq/jms/MessageHeadersTopic$HeaderPublisher.class (MessageHeadersTopic$HeaderSubscriber.class)
Using DurableSubscriberExamp000.class for  /kanigix/Solaris_11/Product/SUNWiqdoc/reloc/usr/demo/imq/jms/DurableSubscriberExample$1.class (DurableSubscriberExample$DurableSubscriber$TextListener.class)
Using DurableSubscriberExamp001.class for  /kanigix/Solaris_11/Product/SUNWiqdoc/reloc/usr/demo/imq/jms/DurableSubscriberExample$DurableSubscriber$TextListener.class (DurableSubscriberExample$DurableSubscriber.class)
Using DurableSubscriberExamp002.class for  /kanigix/Solaris_11/Product/SUNWiqdoc/reloc/usr/demo/imq/jms/DurableSubscriberExample$DurableSubscriber.class (DurableSubscriberExample$MultiplePublisher.class)
Using AsynchTopicExample$Asy000.class for  /kanigix/Solaris_11/Product/SUNWiqdoc/reloc/usr/demo/imq/jms/AsynchTopicExample$AsynchSubscriber$TextListener.class (AsynchTopicExample$AsynchSubscriber.class)
Using AckEquivExample$Asynch000.class for  /kanigix/Solaris_11/Product/SUNWiqdoc/reloc/usr/demo/imq/jms/AckEquivExample$AsynchSubscriber$TextListener.class (AckEquivExample$AsynchSubscriber.class)
Using NamedPipeSocketFactory000.class for  /kanigix/companion/Solaris_sparc/components/sparc/Packages/SFWmyjdb/reloc/sfw/mysql/share/jdbc/com/mysql/jdbc/NamedPipeSocketFactory$RandomAccessFileOutputStream.class (NamedPipeSocketFactory$RandomAccessFileInputStream.class)
Using NamedPipeSocketFactory000.class for  /kanigix/companion/Solaris_x86/components/i386/Packages/SFWmyjdb/reloc/sfw/mysql/share/jdbc/com/mysql/jdbc/NamedPipeSocketFactory$RandomAccessFileOutputStream.class (NamedPipeSocketFactory$RandomAccessFileInputStream.class)
Size of boot image is 4 sectors -> No emulation
  3.30% done, estimate finish Thu Mar 16 23:49:50 2006
  3.60% done, estimate finish Thu Mar 16 23:50:25 2006
  3.90% done, estimate finish Thu Mar 16 23:50:55 2006
  4.20% done, estimate finish Thu Mar 16 23:50:57 2006
  4.50% done, estimate finish Thu Mar 16 23:51:21 2006
  4.80% done, estimate finish Thu Mar 16 23:51:21 2006
...
 99.82% done, estimate finish Thu Mar 16 23:55:21 2006
Total translation table size: 2048
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 12099008
Total directory bytes: 106348544
Path table size(bytes): 772046
Max brk space used 6aba000
1667923 extents written (3257 MB)
# ls -la /isos/kanigix.iso
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root     3415906304 Mar 16 23:55 /isos/kanigix.iso

Houston, we have liftoff!

Okay, it booted - which is what I wanted to accomplish. Lets see if it will install. I've gotten it past doing the layout of the disk and now it is putting packages on. The key will be some of the Java class stuff, i.e., the translation warnings I got from mkisofs.

And it installed and then booted again. (Next goal is to be able to install the Solaris Software Companion Stuff before this reboot.) Hmm, I guess I also need to get some branding in place.

So the Solaris Software Companion bits are installing okay. My next step is to put together a script to automate this creation. I'll be putting that up on kanigix.org. By the way, the DVD has fancy artwork - I'll try to capture an image with the diffuse day light sometime in the day.


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