The w2100z is loud, no two ways about it. And someone claimed that you can't make it quiet.
Well, I have a nice w2100z and I want to use it as a test server at home. I'm tired of the constant buzzing. So, I've ordered some things to help quiet it.
There are basically 3 things I can do to reduce the noise footprint:
I've actually already relocated the w2100z and it still pollutes the ambient noise in my house:
You can see where I've pulled the w2100z off of that half-height telco rack mount cabinet. And I cleaned off that dust from a remodeling job in the house! Okay, I keep the closet door open all of the time to keep air flowing and I also have added a bathroom fan to push air through the closet:
I bring this up because closing the door or turning off the fan are big improvements. So, even with any improvements I make, I'll have to keep this in mind. One thing I have done is add a remote digital thermometer to the room. I'm trying to get an idea of how hot it really gets, but I won't know until summer time really hits.
Also, if I put the w2100z inside the cabinet, I might be able to leverage any sound insulation it will provide.
Okay, the real thrust here is that I ordered some replacement fans for the case and cpu. I like Scythe and I like to order it from NewEgg, except the Scythe Mini-Ninjas were out of stock. So I got them from EndPCNoise:
I went with the Mini-Ninja because space inside the w2100z is limited:
I've put a full height Scythe Ninja in a couple of Antec P180 cases and I've been leery of doing that for a dual-cpu system. I.e., one in a case is tight.
Anyway, the first thing I did was take some pictures of the current CPU fans in place, in case I wanted to add them back:
This also showed me where the fan connectors went. I thought I was screwed, as the current fans had a 3 pin connector, but the cpu fans that came with the Mini-Ninjas (and some quieter replacements:)
were either 3 pin or came with converters.
I pulled out the heatsinks, which was a bit of chore, but I followed the directions at Sun Java™ Workstation W1100z and W2100z User Guide. We can see the thermal grease on the bottom of the heat sink:
I used some alcohol pads to clean off the gunk:
Note that some has gotten on the "fins" and it appears there is small ding. I think that happened trying to get it loose from that last connector.
The CPU also starts out dirty:
And cleans up nicely:
Note that I'm not as concerned with getting this perfect yet. You can see the grime in the plastic retainer bracket and I'll only be worried when I get ready to add it all in.
Before I do anything else, I want to do a dry run to see if the fit is right. So I just place the towers on the cpus:
Amazingly, the daughter board has a better fit than the motherboard. Also, I'll probably not put a CPU fan on it as the case fan will do a lot of work there. Or if the CPU fan is quiet enough, perhaps I'll make sure to push and pull air across that CPU.
With the motherboard CPU, it looks like it will fit okay, but there are some connectors underneath which may cause complications:
The real problem is that the CPU fan retainer bracket that Sun has used is not standard! The 940 socket adapter has nothing to grab onto:
Hmm, we see that the Socket 478 assembly clip almost works:
Except that the CPU hole does not line up correctly!
If we pull the bracket, attach the clip, then we can see that we now know the dimensions needed for a replacement retainer bracket, and dang if it isn't a close fit:
But we can see that the mounting holes are just a bit off center and I'm not sure if the metal assembly might now be touching something else on the motherboard. If I knew for sure that it was not, I could probably bore new holes for the mounting screws. I'll have to think about that.
By the way, a quick search for replacement brackets showed that the Sun ones were not compatible with standard 940 brackets.
If I line up the holes, we can really see the gap:
It is about 3mm off and it doesn't look like there is any place to get that back.
I need a good solid connection or the thermal seal could break.
Does anyone know of a good replacement bracket? It seems proprietary brackets don't work well and the Scythe Universal Retention kit will not work.
I need to think about what I'm going to do before I make any modifications. :->
hello, i'm very interested by your experiments, because i have two w2100 and i can't use them due to the noise! i'm very impatient of the next steps.
Posted by gerard on April 29, 2009 at 04:03 AM CDT #
Bit of a skool boy error, not looking what you have got before buying...
Posted by kangcool on April 29, 2009 at 06:32 PM CDT #
kangcool,
The section is DIY - build your own solutions. Go back a bit and see I did that with some spuds.
I fully expect to get this working.
Thanks,
Tom
Posted by Tom Haynes on April 29, 2009 at 07:30 PM CDT #
Oh, and I bought the Mini-Ninja's with the expectation that I would eventually recycle them onto the next board/system I built. So they were destined from the start to go on past the w2100z.
I've got Scythes in all the rigs I've built and I love them.
Posted by Tom Haynes on April 29, 2009 at 07:33 PM CDT #
interesting. I changed only case fan and power supply on my w1100z. For the same reasons i didn't managed to install a silent cpu fan :(
On a side note, are you aware of a working method to install a second cpu in a w1100z. I couldn't find any information.
Posted by bbr on May 14, 2009 at 03:47 AM CDT #
bbr, sorry, I missed your posting.
Do you have the daughterboard already? I don't know if it is pre-installed or not.
Posted by Thomas Haynes on June 25, 2009 at 12:56 PM CDT #
Hi Tom,
Did you ever get this to work? Is there a way to mount the mini-Ninjas in there? Thanks.
Posted by Elias Israel on September 28, 2009 at 03:26 PM CDT #
Eli,
No, I haven't gotten it to work. I've been busy with work projects. I've got the dremelized brackets about 99% ready, just haven't had the time.
The other thing I've done is switched out the case fan, that ought to make a huge difference. But since I don't have the CPU fans on, I haven't tested that.
I'll try and finish this up at the end of next week, I've got some time off. :->
Thanks,
Tom
Posted by Thomas Haynes on October 05, 2009 at 04:20 PM CDT #