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Er, AIM wasn't trademarked when they picked the name 'gaim'. :)

Many years ago when this project was first started, it was called "GTK+ AOL Instant Messenger." AOL naturally complained, and Mark Spencer changed the name to "Gaim." AOL was appeased, and no one really ever heard of it because there were very few users back then. A few years later AOL trademarked "AIM," and started referring to their IM services using that name.

Posted by Andrew Sidwell on April 08, 2007 at 04:46 AM PDT #

Andrew: Yes, I'm aware of that (I hinted by saying "it's more complicated than usual but there's only so much you can say in 2 lines of del.icio.us text!) Nonetheless, we have all called AIM by that name for years and years, which is why Mark chose "Gaim", and when the first trademark issue arose it would have been smarter to have picked an unrelated name than to assume that "AIM" would go unprotected for ever too. 50:50 hindsight perhaps, but we all need to learn from it.

In this case the matter was undoubtedly arguable, but time and time again I see geeks frame businesses as "unreasonable" for enforcing trademarks when in fact they have little option. Maybe AOL could have licensed the trademark to them but I guess they needed to be a legal entity first. "Pidgin" is a great name and I think we now need to get behind it in a positive way rather than throw brickbats at AOL. Not that they don't deserve criticism for other aspects of their behaviour, mind you...

Posted by Simon Phipps on April 08, 2007 at 05:06 AM PDT #

"The [RIAA] asked that any owner of a copyright, patent, trademark or trade secret be able to use pretexting" Well, since pretexting is basically a bullshit term for *fraud*....

Posted by Andrew on April 08, 2007 at 12:57 PM PDT #

IBM does use the GPL, so I guess Steve Mills was referring to IBM's habit of not using the GPL for open source projects it initiates.

Posted by Glyn Normington on April 10, 2007 at 10:41 AM PDT #

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